psstloaf 0 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Hello, just wanted to ask a quick question because the modifier is so small at a low level that it pretty much imposable to tell weather its benefiting my high elfs spells or not. Does Damage Lore affect a spells second effect ? e.g Frost Flare , I cant see why not but just wanted to confirm this before wasting 5 points on a offensive skill. Which at end game I will not even be using. Also what I wanted to ask was , is Attack Value weapon based combat only or does it affect spells chances of hitting also ? Thank You. Link to comment
chattius 2,512 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Depends: There are 3 possible spell damage types. One time direct hit spell damage: chance to have secondary effects triggered direct damage redone in intervals: eg deathly spears, nimbus: chance to have secondary effects triggered Damage over time: the spells which are blocked with eg -x% fire damage over time: no chance to have secondary effects triggered Link to comment
psstloaf 0 Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) Depends: There are 3 possible spell damage types. One time direct hit spell damage: chance to have secondary effects triggered direct damage redone in intervals: eg deathly spears, nimbus: chance to have secondary effects triggered Damage over time: the spells which are blocked with eg -x% fire damage over time: no chance to have secondary effects triggered ok thanks, so I was looking at frost flare and the damage it does is over time damage which damage lore will not affect ?!?! I also assumed frost flare has a chance to freeze (which is a second effect right ?) or is that only with the gold mod Icy Circles which freezes in a larger area ? also any news on attack value affecting spells ? Thanks =) Edited February 2, 2011 by psstloaf Link to comment
lujate 572 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I would assume that Attack Value bonuses would only affect weapon-based Combat Arts (but that is just a WAG). Link to comment
essjayehm 58 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) ok thanks, so I was looking at frost flare and the damage it does is over time damage which damage lore will not affect ?!?! I also assumed frost flare has a chance to freeze (which is a second effect right ?) or is that only with the gold mod Icy Circles which freezes in a larger area ? also any new on attack value affecting spells ? Thanks =) So, if a CA actually causes DoT (ie Frost Flare, Blazing Tempest, Levin Array, et al) then Damage Lore does not affect the DoT. If you cause burn or poison with a weapon-attac or non-DoT spell (Ancestral Fireball) then Damage Lore Mastery will increase the damage and duration. Pre-mastery Damage Lore only increases the chance to cause secondary effects. AFAIK, ice damage can proc a "freeze" effect but I am unsure if DL will increase the chance for Frost Flare to freeze or not. I would guess, yes, but I'm not sure. Lujate's wild guess was correct. Attack value and Defence Value are only for weapon-combat. Spells have "Magic Attack" and "Magic Defense" on the consoles, and I think they are affected by Spell Intensity and Spell Resistance, respectively. Not absolutely sure about PC version. A fellow named Valcaf did all the testing for Damage Lore that I know of; I'll track down the guide and link it. EDIT: My link The notes on DL are in Section 9, but I advise reading the entire OP just for the "random" DL notes that are here and there. Edited February 2, 2011 by essjayehm Link to comment
psstloaf 0 Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 wow ! thanks, looks like some good info in there I'll be having a good look over at some point !, should prove very useful Thank You. Link to comment
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