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#1 chattius

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 04:59 AM

The question popped up when our second now14 year old daughter asked how a new player would best start. She was used to the family bargainer chain, the family smith and full common chests when she started playing sacred2. Most of the characters we played were builds to test out what is possible: unarmed characters without x% life leech, maximum ca-range characters, ....

All this are character which need carefully selected equipment. She never played a character which had to live from just what it finds.

So she started a new character while being at hospital for 2 weeks. She played a seraphim from scratch: no common chest, no bargainer chain, no family smith....

 

She is now level 105 in niob and she said she did the character so that every 20-30 levels the playstyle would be different. Attached a screenshot of this character after finishing silver at level 41 without deaths. She said it would be nice if there would be a list with the character guides which would indicate how good a guide is replayable by a new player.

 

From my 'guides':

Sohei:possible, RegPerHit equipment and a weapon with x% lifeleech should be possible to be found while still in silver.

Melee-elf: possible: same as sohei

Kungfu Dryads: Detheya set for x% life leech needed!

Hardcore-single aspect DM Mentalist: if not hardcore, no special equipment needed, using a weapon with reg per hit in beginning. The full ca-range later on was needed to level with a decent speed at level 170+

 

 

So see this thread to post which guides you would consider newbie friendly, as for being a first character.

 

 

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#2 DaveO

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 07:15 AM

I'd say the BFG Seraphim build is by far the easiest to play if you had nothing to start out with. You may start early with weapons, but once you get BFG it's smooth sailing.


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 07:53 AM

I remember thinking game was SO tough when it was released, that if they had kept a few pro-loaded builds just to get players to get a faster handle on the awesomeness of this game, perhaps it would have had more mainstream appeal.  I like David's take on this, overpowered toon at the beginning, this gets the player carooming early, with lots of good resounding splats!  and blood, but BFG, while amazing at low to med levels, needs a lot of balancing at the high levels for HC viability.

As well, Dryad ranged blowpipe is well-loved.  In this day and age of insta-consumption, the zero-travel speed pipe is pretty much king in terms of long distance splats.

 

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 08:14 AM

As well, Dryad ranged blowpipe is well-loved.  In this day and age of insta-consumption, the zero-travel speed pipe is pretty much king in terms of long distance splats.

Thats what came to mind, the dryad comes equiped with a ranged weapon from start
when all other toons need to search a while for a decent ranged weapon
And range at the begining makes things alot faster going.

One small thing here: in general I dont like the blowpipe, it has that strange graphic bug.
When a toon has a ranged weapon equiped and you CTRL + left click, that toon stays put
and fires from spot. When you move your cursor around while doing that,
the toons start turning and shooting.
Well... the dryad with any other ranged weapon does, not so with teh blowpipe.
With that she just stands there, looking north for example, even when shooting west,
resulting the darts flying sideways or even backwards

Its weird....   :o

 

 

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 08:20 AM

As well, Dryad ranged blowpipe is well-loved.  In this day and age of insta-consumption, the zero-travel speed pipe is pretty much king in terms of long distance splats.

Thats what came to mind, the dryad comes equiped with a ranged weapon from start
when all other toons need to search a while for a decent ranged weapon
And range at the begining makes things alot faster going.

One small thing here: in general I dont like the blowpipe, it has that strange graphic bug.
When a toon has a ranged weapon equiped and you CTRL + left click, that toon stays put
and fires from spot. When you move your cursor around while doing that,
the toons start turning and shooting.
Well... the dryad with any other ranged weapon does, not so with teh blowpipe.
With that she just stands there, looking north for example, even when shooting west,
resulting the darts flying sideways or even backwards

Its weird....   :o

 

 

Warning: Don't try this at home!

 

>> 

As well, Dryad ranged blowpipe is well-loved.  In this day and age of insta-consumption, the zero-travel speed pipe is pretty much king in terms of long distance splats.

Thats what came to mind, the dryad comes equiped with a ranged weapon from start
when all other toons need to search a while for a decent ranged weapon
And range at the begining makes things alot faster going.

One small thing here: in general I dont like the blowpipe, it has that strange graphic bug.
When a toon has a ranged weapon equiped and you CTRL + left click, that toon stays put
and fires from spot. When you move your cursor around while doing that,
the toons start turning and shooting.
Well... the dryad with any other ranged weapon does, not so with teh blowpipe.
With that she just stands there, looking north for example, even when shooting west,
resulting the darts flying sideways or even backwards

Its weird....   :o

 

 

Warning: Don't try this at home!

 

 

 

 

I'd never really noticed this

CAn you put up a video to youtube to show?  Or maybe I was so ennamored of that insane kill speed and the almost no-need to put on armor at low levels for dryad, that I was blind to it!

 

:lol:

 

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 08:23 AM

wow gogo

looks up at his post:

that right there is a quote-gone-weird

 

Uhm.. about that video... I never done a video, dun even got a capture prog installed

sowwy mate, tho its fairly easy to replicate


Edited by tom.morrow, 26 October 2013 - 08:31 AM.


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 08:26 AM

wow gogo

looks up at his post:

hat right there is a quote-gone-weird

 

Uhm.. about that video... I never done a video, dun even got a capture prog installed

sowwy mate, tho its fairly easy to replicate

 

wow gogo

looks up at his post:

hat right there is a quote-gone-weird

 

 

hahahha

it's this skin..it's got buggy with the quotes, I have to hit enter a few times to make the cursor leap out of the box into a proper area.

Quote fixed, no worries with the vid tom

 

:)

 

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 04:16 PM

For a player who has no chest, smith/bargainer, and no experience with Sacred 2, I'm not sure about build, but I do know that the Shadow warrior is the easiest and most forgiving when it comes to learning and experimenting. I first got the game for my 360, with absolutely no knowledge of the game, and no knowledge of any wiki/fan site. I also had an old, fat-backed tv with no knowledge of what HD even meant. I couldn't read any script or description, so this ole boy was flying blind. All I knew is I wanted a big dude with thick armor and big weapons. I knew nothing of combat arts, so I completely stayed away from them. I couldn't read the descriptions of armor and weapons, so I just went with what looked the coolest. I read in the manual that the SW was a weapons master, so I chose armor and every weapon skill for my skills. In short, my SW was a hot mess.I'll tell you what, though, that hot mess of a Shadow Warrior outlasted every other character I made when I was cutting teeth with the game



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Posted 27 October 2013 - 02:41 AM

Agreed, SW is easiest to build and most forgiving to use of all the characters in the game, and is damn powerful, too.  You got a CA that grants total invisibility and can be modded into a fourth buff, or you have two aspects that can both be modified by tactics lore at the same time which results in a character that is a tank from beginning to end.  I personally always recommend MantisPR's guide to get beginners off on the right foot not only for the SW, but for any weapon based build in general, while podgie's mass killer is for those who want someone or something to experiment things on with less repercussions (other than boredom).  That's how I managed to get through the game initially without relying on the chest or shoppers when I first started.


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#10 chattius

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 03:04 AM

Yes SW is probably easiest to start.

Which character type would you do if the goal is to play a single character through all difficulties from start and not getting bored: so which character is tjhe best chamaeleon. Melee, ranged, caster, ... all in one character.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:46 PM

Well, it depends on what constitutes as 'getting bored' (though permanent SV seems to be universal), or by extension, 'fun'.  As far as playing through all the difficulties and excelling at them, on the other hand, and doing so without relying on pre-existing items, go for the melee build.  Permanent, non-detectable SV requires a very long time to get without pre-existing runes, while he is quite the effective melee character almost right from the start.  You could go ranged, but I find the SW to be pretty weak in that area.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 05:28 AM

I wonder if an unexpected / unusual build would succeed in keeping boredom at bay all the way through the end.

Something like a pure caster Dryad or SW, "I-never-have-physical-contact-with-a-foe" thing

Or maybe the other way around, an HE with "I-will-carve-my-way-by-only-my-dagger"

It sure would be hard in the higher modes, maybe even impossible


Edited by tom.morrow, 29 October 2013 - 05:30 AM.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:11 AM

what about minion builds...is there one that's relatively effortless where you can just swarm over the game grid without having to ressurect stuff manually too often?

 

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 03:22 PM

My Mr. I get to Platinum fast can get you to PLATINUM only playing up to level 51.  It is tested.  It uses shadow veil and then spec EVERYTHING else to offense.  It's in the shadow warrior builds on a sticky.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 03:27 PM

Gogo for a minion build I would use shadow warrior and into Astral Lord put 31 skill - 6 mod points into Rallied Soul (like I modded it in General Claudius build in the SW section).  That has a mod that makes the range of the Rally greater.  Then stick it on the end of a combo so probably Combat Discipline.  And then take concentration and mod Grim Resilliance and Skeletons with 4 skeletons or else 3 and damage mod.  You can keep the skeletons indestructible by eating runes and a weapon buff slot so you don't have to mod any defensive ability.

 

In my general claudius rallied souls and skeletons were still doing decent damage though it was slow damage.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:09 PM

I never made a minion build , but I like that word; minion. "My minions and I were going to conquer the world today, but.....well, a Lexx marathon came on, and we ordered pizza, smoked a little hookah, then the minions had the same old argument about how the Children of Dune mini-series is nowhere near as good as the book". I always tell them "how can anyone expect to take the power struggles, fanatic devotions, blind lusts, bloody betrayals, and passionate loyalties of Frank Herbert's world and adequately translate it to the silver screen? In my eyes, any attempt at all is a noble effort". So, yeah, the world is safe from Gilberticus and his Minions of Death, at least until we run out of pizza, beer, shisha, and Lexx.



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 05:38 AM

High Elf

A funny and robust start into the High Elf is to play her as melee early.

 

Level 5

stormite lore 5

armour lore 1

arcane focus 2

Modify the crystal skin to silver modifier and use it as your buff. Fight with every spell you have.

 

Level 10

stormite lore 5

armour lore 3

arcane focus 10

combat discipline 1

Magic coup fully modified and put into a single combination. Modify it for sure hit (more independant from finding hit chance equipment), mana steal (together with combat discipline the regeneration clock starts near half), and explosion for group control. Use whatever massive damage weapon you find.

 

Level 15

stormite lore 5

armour lore 12

arcane focus 15

combat discipline 1

concentration 1

Starting to modify the regeneration buff. Magic coup should be spammable by now.

 

With this start the elf can be played later as arcane/ice, ice, or arcane.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 01:01 PM

  I  started my game  with  Dryad the  SW if u put the skills badly  like I did  and I couldnt  kill the champion earth elements on silver  before  gar colossum I took  them near death  and they healed ,thounsands  hell .And  there's a second efect  so SW yea  he makes  alot of hp the buffs  are simple  and made for storng character but when  you want go to play another  character u charge  like a  mad man  into mobs forgeting that  you are   not  a SW.

      Dryad  for me  easy  to start  even with a bad  weapon ,normal attack will be enough  and u can  have bargaining  without investing  5  points in something else and beside  the buff ancient  bark wich hides  those fine line  of her  she is ok .



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Posted 10 September 2015 - 09:42 PM

I know this is an old thread, but I'm just starting out on the pc. I have some experience with the ps3 version. I am starting with a dryad. I'm not expecting to take her to the end game, but you never know. I picked her because I know that with just a few runes, she can still kill quickly. Sinister Pedator, Ancient Bark, Ravaged Impact, Darting Assault, and of course Tangled Vines. With the exception of the two buffs, the Combat Arts are kept at a low level to manage regen time. The dryad gets Sinister and a blow pipe at the start of the campaign which is enough to get this build up and running.

As far as skills, I am shooting for EP, the appropriate focus and lores, ranged, armor, and I will figure out the rest later.

This is a fairly minimalist build, in fact you can drop it down to the buffs and the vines and still get through silver easily. Just avoid the griffin, it ignores your vines and debuffs you, which is bad news for this build.

The main point of this character is to start collecting runes so I can get some other charters off to a good start. I don't need a shopper or smith for this dryad, like I said earlier, I'm not planning to keep her till end game. My next character will be a SW (shadow veil, tower) that will be my smith, and a shopper (not sure which class, maybe HE ice build or another dryad). I would have started with the SW, but I want him to be able to have some minions to start and at least a few runes for tower and SV so that at level 16 I can stop using minions (I mod tower then SV) and at 35ish be perma-stealthed.

Hope this helps :)
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Posted 12 September 2015 - 01:58 PM

I know this is an old thread, but I'm just starting out on the pc. I have some experience with the ps3 version. I am starting with a dryad. I'm not expecting to take her to the end game, but you never know. I picked her because I know that with just a few runes, she can still kill quickly. Sinister Pedator, Ancient Bark, Ravaged Impact, Darting Assault, and of course Tangled Vines. With the exception of the two buffs, the Combat Arts are kept at a low level to manage regen time. The dryad gets Sinister and a blow pipe at the start of the campaign which is enough to get this build up and running.

As far as skills, I am shooting for EP, the appropriate focus and lores, ranged, armor, and I will figure out the rest later.

This is a fairly minimalist build, in fact you can drop it down to the buffs and the vines and still get through silver easily. Just avoid the griffin, it ignores your vines and debuffs you, which is bad news for this build.

The main point of this character is to start collecting runes so I can get some other charters off to a good start. I don't need a shopper or smith for this dryad, like I said earlier, I'm not planning to keep her till end game. My next character will be a SW (shadow veil, tower) that will be my smith, and a shopper (not sure which class, maybe HE ice build or another dryad). I would have started with the SW, but I want him to be able to have some minions to start and at least a few runes for tower and SV so that at level 16 I can stop using minions (I mod tower then SV) and at 35ish be perma-stealthed.

Hope this helps :)



If your only goal is to get the gear you need for other characters you want to make you're better off just modding the drop rates in file. Then you can just use the character you really want with no need to waste skill choices on ep or bargain.



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