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Just why are you sure that the Sacred 2 devs did it? If they did such testing, most probably it was done with special test version, where collisions just were not compiled into the code, or by playing in test mode where modules of the game engine can be turned on and off from console. One thing that has to be understood - "no collision" behavior is not achieved by adding a special mechanic, but by removing collision handling from the game. There is a giant script called collision.txt that describes just how big a distance should be kept from each model in game, and it regulates all collision mechanics in game. There is no way of removing collisions just for the mount, only for the game in general, and then it would look very broken. Removing collision to allow flying above rivers might not sound bad, but it would also result in flying through trees, houses and NPCs, in characters walking the riverbeds, in characters sinking through the hills etc.

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Thats true silver , but its a start XD. From what I've understood on what you wrote , that means its imposible. Im realy dissapointed in ascaron devs for not creating a awsome editor like Warcraft 3 has , or Torchlight 2 , that wouldve been to awsome .

 

Offtopic : I know this is offtopic but since im already writting here, does anyone have any clue if someone asked for the ascaron devs (Wich I can see they are still active by creating unbended) to create a editing tool for Sacred 2 ?

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Here is the Dragon video I said I'd upload. It's just a quick demonstration of how it looks when walking and flying.

 

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I like it. I like the video as well, straight to the point. There are so many videos that I've watched where the guy just yammers on and on. It's like "dude, I don't care to hear all your thoughts on life, I don't care that you discovered a new flavor of Mountain Dew that you like, I'm watching the video to see the game play, not to hear you narrate crap and nauseatingly spin the camera around til the viewer gets vertigo." Awesome, clean-cut, no b.s video, Flix :)

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Here is the Dragon video I said I'd upload. It's just a quick demonstration of how it looks when walking and flying.

 

 

Wow

The actions and flight just astonished me now

Can't believe this is possible!

:)

 

gogo

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Here is the Dragon video I said I'd upload. It's just a quick demonstration of how it looks when walking and flying.

 

Wow

The actions and flight just astonished me now

Can't believe this is possible!

:)

 

gogo

 

 

Ok now that's amazing!! Why does the HE get a dragon though? Why not the DM instead? or are you using the HE for testing? I love these projects because they always uncover what this game can do and what can be done to it. It seems like a lot but I think we've just scratch the surface. I have an idea would it be possible to make anything mountable with a little editing? I would love to the TG get to ride on one of the un-named guardians around.

 

I wonder if this could be done in S1 I would really love to see someone make a mule or donkey mountable for the dwarf.

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Ok now that's amazing! Why does the HE get a dragon though? Why not the DM instead? or are you using the HE for testing?

Oh, now you are starting on the same topic Flix advocated for some time ago - to give the Dragon to DM. The special mounts are made specifically for the character - this is the way the game works. It is impossible to create an all-character special mount. It is possible to make identically looking mounts for different chars, but it's more interesting to give them different ones instead. Currently, the Dragon belongs to High Elf. This is why my screens and Flix' video show her. There are several reasons why it is so:

  1. When Pesmontis contributed the Dragon model, he wanted it to be used for the High Elf's mount. The High Elf's Fay Drake's description likens this creature to the Dragon, which is probably why Pesmontis thought about making the Dragon as an upgrade to Fay Drake. From what I remember, he also did not want to give it to DM so as not to have "dragons everywhere" in DM's design. I don't think it respectful to take Pesmontis' creation and use it in the way other than he intended.
  2. As it was announced, we plan to release Elite Mounts for all characters. In fact, a lot of work had already been done in this direction. We have 9 new mount models now, contributed by Dimitrius and Pesmontis, so there is some room for choosing. Simply put, we gave the Dragon to the Elf because there is another quite awesome model that can be given to DM.
  3. The Dragon mount is quite small in size, and therefore is quite alike DM's Dragon Form. It makes it look like he is riding one of his fellows. While it is quite a good match, I don't think all people would like such allusion. After all, the Dragon Mages should be disciples and respectful followers of the Dragons, and it remains a question if riding one of their masters is a respectful and allowed approach.

I have an idea would it be possible to make anything mountable with a little editing?

It would be possible to make some creatures mountable with a lot editing. Only the creatures that are reminiscent of existing mounts in shape and size can be made mountable, because there is only one set of character animations to be used for the mounted combat. Making a drastically different creature into a mount not only requires tremendous amount of work, but would also render the original mount pretty unusable by throwing the animations off. Anything horse-sized and horse-shaped theoretically can be made into a mount, but it requires a lot of work editing models and animations of the new mount itself. I'm not sure if we currently have a modder around who is willing to undertake such a task.

 

Also, just to make it clear: We did not want to post a completely unfinished project here, so right now, the Elite Mounts have been in the works for quite some time already. Not only we have the models for all new mounts prepared, but all scripting work had been already done. As of now, every character has his sets of working Elite Mounts that can be bought from a special trader. All that remains is to create new textures for all mounts to represent all aspects and serve as appropriate color-coding. Texturing is a time-consuming work, so the project is not near the release, but it is already past the phase of preliminary planning.

 

That being said, it does not mean that there is no room for more mounts than those already in the works. For example, if there would be enough demand, we can make a set of Dragons for DM too, without taking them away from HE (I made such a thing for my personal setup, but as of now I don't plan to release it). If somebody offers a new mount model, we can consider adding it too. But the work that already started takes priority before the new ideas and wishes. We can listen to suggestions and add them to the plans, but they won't be implemented right away.

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I do think the elf and dragon look good don't get me wrong. I could come up with some ideas, not sure if it's workable or anything. Is this project aiming towards things that can fly or any creature? I have some possible creatures not sure what character they should be used for.

griffon maybe for seraphim something along the lines of the white griffon because of the energy look of the wings.

hydra maybe for SW

flying demon or the big green scorpion maybe for inquistor

namelass guardian for temple guardian

one of the jungle cats or a bear for the dryad I would like to one colored as a jaguar or leopard

Any ways I think those would be kinda cool to see who know maybe I picked something that is already done.

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Serving as a priest of half-forgotten temple is not a very interesting way to spend a life. However, the priestly way of life allows for pilgrimage to holy places and some priests spend considersble amount of time travelling around the world. One certain priest we noticed earlier tends to bring more that the Gods' blessings from his travels.

Quite a few days have passed since the first Elite Mount was revealed, so it's time for the update. Today's news are not about beasts, but about advanced Machines that were once created for the Temple Guardians, and would serve them again. TG's new mount is not so drastically different from the original as High Elf's, but the Elite Mobiculums are still a noticeable upgrade, both in stats and in appearance. They have the same speed as the standart Mobiculums, but got better reach and a mix of offensive and defensive modifiers. Now for the details.

When the Priest desided to pay a visit to his colleagues in the Wasteland Temple, his main intention was to offer them at least some company, as there are not many pilgrims coming to the Wastelands. However, the moment he arrived in this desolate land, he was astonished by the ancient power that can still be felt around the place and the remains of incredible battles that took place here ages ago. In the end, he spent more time walking around the Windswept Fortress than praying in the Temple. The result of his wonderings was that he found remains of the ancient battle machines, some of them still relatively intact. He took it on himself to restore one such machine, but was not able to figure out all of its features. He would gladly offer this devise to a hero fully capable of using it.
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This is a Skirmish Mobiculum, a standart Military issue developed for Temple Guardians who defended the Great Machine during the ancient wars. As all standart issues, it is not geared for any function in particular, but does its main job well. The thorned frame of the machine allows to repel the incoming damage, and the fine tuned gears allow for better reach and enhance the driver's capability for fighting.
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For his true pilgrimages, the Priest does not go to the big temples in the bustling cities. Instead, he visits the ruins of the ancient temples hidden in the Jungle, hoping to find some revelation that was forgotten by modern people. Nobody knows if he actually found a better way to communicate with the Gods, but in the Temple of Tears he found a machine that was used by the Guardians of this place, mysterious beings sometimes called "Watchdogs". Little is remembered about these guardians, except that their Devotion to the cause was truly remarkable.
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From the Temple Guardian's class quest, we learned that there was a special substance hidden in the Temple of Tears and protected by Temple Guardians throughout the years. The Watchdog Mobiculum is probably a machine used by these Devout Guardians. It enhances the combat arts of the Devout Guardian Aspect and offers the same offensive and defensive stats as other Elite Mobiculums.
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Another interesting thing that the curious Priest found instead of the Divine blessing, was a strange engine that uses a mysterious principle called "Nuclear Fusion". It was kept in the ruined building near the Temple in Ciria Delith. While the thing is obviously dangerous, it definitely produces a lot of power, so the Priest used it for one of the machines he assembled. However, he refuses to give the resulting Mobiculum to any other person, unless this person has some understanding of what the Fusion is and how it works.
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The Atomic Mobiculum that uses the principles of Lost Fusion is available to all Temple Guardians, as they do remember the particulars of such technology. However, it would be most useful for the ones who choose the Lost Fusion as the main aspect.
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The last machine the Priest built was not a restoration of a ruined Mobiculum he found somewhere, but a new experimental design. Like most machines in the modern Ancaria, it uses T-Energy as the source of power. With its very core filled with the dangerous source of technology and magic, this Mobiculum obtained properties that are different from that of the other similar machines.
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The Energy Core Mobiculum is best handled by Source Wardens, who specialized in harnessing T-Energy for a long time. Being built on the same base as the other Mobiculums, it offers similar characteristics otherwise.
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So these are the TG's Elite Mounts. The model is one of the Armored Mount models contributed by Dimitrius154, and modified by Pesmontis, so many thanks to them both for making this mount happen. Textures are by LazyTomcat (used with his permission) and by me.

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Hell YES! Nothing says "I had enough of this" like a tank!

Brings back memories of me going through the crystal arena of the Winged Ones in Seraphim ice lands. Lets just say it was a very short and onesided tournament.

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Great write-up Silver Fox. You've done an excellent job introducing them and grounding both them and our trader in the game-world.

 

Energy Core Mobiculum is my favorite. I'll try to put up a video tomorrow but I need to get the sounds working in my setup first.

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Alright here's the video of the new Mobiculum I said I'd upload. Like before, I'm just driving along an empty stretch of desert road and testing out the jets. This is the Watchdog Mobiculum geared towards the Devout Guardian aspect.

 

 

This is actually a slightly out-of-date version with blue windshields. The final one has clear shields that match the mount better, as shown in the pictures above (sorry Silver Fox). But you still get a good idea of how this beast of a machine handles.

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Thank you very much for making the videos, Flix. They show the new mounts well - they have everything that people need to see and nothing that is beside the point. I added links to them to the first post, so that they were easier to find in the thread and more readers checked them out.

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Great work and many thanks for the videos! I'm very much looking forward to see them in my Sacred! ;)

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The atomic mobiluculum, IS " O . O " . Words ... speechless. :drool::drool: .

 

Thats just to good.

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Another awesome project. Nice!

 

I like the idea to get that elite mount later in the campaign. But it should still be very hard to get, because it has to be something special, something not every player has.

In order to achieve that, the quest should take around twice as long as the Unique Mounts quest.

Maybe you also have another solution for that, but I cant think of any right now.

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Когда дадите полетать на драконе, товарищи?

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Sorry for the long delay on this project. I don't think it will make it into the last CM Patch. The final 1.50 Patch is finished and going through testing now, so when the mounts are done you will probably have to get it through the Items Mod.

 

This project is a real test of resolve and enthusiasm. It's a lot of work. Lazy Tomcat did a lot of work skinning the mounts but was never able to finish them. Silver Fox pushed himself to do almost all of the scripting for ALL the mounts, so they're mostly ready to go except for, again, skins for all the variants. Pesmontis created the Dragons and the still-unannounced Cyber-Tigers, and that was again a lot of work that required a break afterwards.

 

If I can get the time, I'd like to start trying to skin the remaining mounts, but like my fellow modders, I always seem to end up working on something else in my free time to keep up the fun factor of modding.

 

Short version: it's not abandoned, but it might be a little while before it's finished.

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You've given us so much new content. You deserve a break and to be able to take your time. Heaven forbid that you have things like a social life and work and that type stuff :)

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Well said Gilberticus! ;)

But to be honest, all the modders who are working either on the Community Patch or on the CM Itempatch gave us already more than we ever could expact for a Game which is taken for dead of its owner. Therefore we or at least I will be patient and wait what there is to come. So, please, take your time and make things fine! :)

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where we can find him :)

I can't fin him in world of ancaria

 

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Somewhere in the world of Ancaria there is a priest who was destined to serve Gods in a remote location. He stays in his half-forgotten temple and rarely sees people except for hunters and travelling merchants who stop once in a while to make offerings to the Gods. This priest spends his free time breeding and training exotic creatures. Those rare times when he goes out of the temple, his pets usually follow him. He thinks that animals make good companions to lone travelers like him... and like you.

 

There are also some rumors that this priest does not mind experimenting with machinery, so maybe if you manage to find him and pay him a visit, he would show you results of his experiments.

 

With this, I start releasing the information about the Elite Mount project that had been in the works for quite some time. It began as a part of CM patch, then halted in its tracks and now is continued by me, Pesmontis and Flix as a part of the CM Items mod. As the mod is undergoing gradual integration into CM Patch, there is a possibility that the mounts would eventually return to CM proper and would be released as a part of CM v150. But it's just a possibility, and the first release, regardless of anything, would happen with CM Items mod, so this is the place to look for new mounts.

 

We are not going to tell you the exact location of the temple where the priest and his pets reside, but this thread would gradually fill you in on his merchandise, so stay tuned. There are plans to create new Elite Mounts for each of the seven playable characters - these mounts would be better than the original special ones, but the opportunity to purchase them would open up much later in the course of main campaign. A couple of Elite Mounts are ready, so it's more than just talk, others are in process.

 

Read on to learn more about the mount veriety:

High Elf's mount - the Dragon: Introduction and Stats - Video

Temple Guardian's mount - the "Buzzsaw" Mobiculum: Introduction and Stats - Video

Where I can get dragon mounts for high elf

hay.... silver fox please help me to get elite mount

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