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#1 SteveTheDreamer

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Posted 10 January 2016 - 05:39 PM

Greetings,
I am a long time fan of Sacred 2:Fallen Angel and recently returned to the game. I have a strange urge to continue working on speedruns after a long break from it.

I am new to the forums here and have some questions for any of those who may be listening.

1. has anyone else attempted any speedruns for this game? if so, which class, which campaign light or dark, and is there link to topic with jnfo Bout this? or videos?

2. I am playing on Xbox 360. I understand there is a PC version and I can only assume that it has been patched more, has more people playing it and has more content (mods?) -
part of the reasons I ask this is I am wondering if strategies and knowledge of the PC players will pertain to xbox, depending on how much has been patched.

3. Bugs- I havnt read the bugs n glitches thread yet, but the only things im aware of outside of hacked items is duping of items using offline 2nd local char/memory card (which I want to avoid) and then also the trick with Dryad poison spread fast experience, which I find intriguing for potentially its own category of speedrun.
Does anyone know of any other tricks -within the original game mechanics- that would help beat the game faster?

- I am really most familiar with Shadow Warrior and Dryad abilities and have only come up with strategies for those two.
For Shadow Warrior, my current plan is pretty basic and hinges on getting Shadow Veil upgraded to permanent buff, and Nether Allegiance for support. followed by some straight Frenzied Rampage for Dps.
Part of this depends on how many rune drops I get and if I can afford to exchange them for the combat art I need.
I rush through main campaign buy mount as soon as possible, then get Unique class mount as soon as I get there, And the rest of the run im just hoping for random drops of higher damage weapons.
Despite being a boring looking run with alot of just running, I think there are a lot of possibilities due to upgrade paths and all of the different abilities.
So I am very curious if anyone else has any ideas or suggestions.
The reason I love this game is because of how in depth the combat art system is. The relation of how many runes you use vs. the higher cooldown you get, and then the fact you have a limited choice of skills you can choose from.
I think a speedrun can really showcase this fact.

So if anyone is left on these forums, please share your thoughts!
Thankyou!

#2 gogoblender

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 07:09 AM

Greetings,
I am a long time fan of Sacred 2:Fallen Angel and recently returned to the game. I have a strange urge to continue working on speedruns after a long break from it.

I am new to the forums here and have some questions for any of those who may be listening.

1. has anyone else attempted any speedruns for this game? if so, which class, which campaign light or dark, and is there link to topic with jnfo Bout this? or videos?

2. I am playing on Xbox 360. I understand there is a PC version and I can only assume that it has been patched more, has more people playing it and has more content (mods?) -
part of the reasons I ask this is I am wondering if strategies and knowledge of the PC players will pertain to xbox, depending on how much has been patched.

3. Bugs- I havnt read the bugs n glitches thread yet, but the only things im aware of outside of hacked items is duping of items using offline 2nd local char/memory card (which I want to avoid) and then also the trick with Dryad poison spread fast experience, which I find intriguing for potentially its own category of speedrun.
Does anyone know of any other tricks -within the original game mechanics- that would help beat the game faster?

- I am really most familiar with Shadow Warrior and Dryad abilities and have only come up with strategies for those two.
For Shadow Warrior, my current plan is pretty basic and hinges on getting Shadow Veil upgraded to permanent buff, and Nether Allegiance for support. followed by some straight Frenzied Rampage for Dps.
Part of this depends on how many rune drops I get and if I can afford to exchange them for the combat art I need.
I rush through main campaign buy mount as soon as possible, then get Unique class mount as soon as I get there, And the rest of the run im just hoping for random drops of higher damage weapons.
Despite being a boring looking run with alot of just running, I think there are a lot of possibilities due to upgrade paths and all of the different abilities.
So I am very curious if anyone else has any ideas or suggestions.
The reason I love this game is because of how in depth the combat art system is. The relation of how many runes you use vs. the higher cooldown you get, and then the fact you have a limited choice of skills you can choose from.
I think a speedrun can really showcase this fact.

So if anyone is left on these forums, please share your thoughts!
Thankyou!

 

 

Hi Stevo, and welcome to DarkMatters!

 

I've been hooked to this game since it came out as Underworld, and for Sacred 2, I was still playing on PC (awful lag and bugs :oooo:) so don't have much feedback on the Console, though I know that there are still some game vets here from Sacred 2 Console who could perhaps help out with ideas for your speed runs.  Regarding the depths of the Combat System, it's this which hooked me in almost 24/7 years ago, and many a lost night and red - rimmed eyes because of all the possibilities a build could spread out to, and the fantastic quality of, you guessed it, Loot! And for a standup game, not part of a MMO, the more than 600 quests, and open ended nature of this game added to the addiction.

 

Mystic was a serious console player and has actually added great content to the game's Wiki, he usually reads these forums, and will probably have some insight.

 

Good luck and have fun here on the boards!

 

:)

 

gogo



#3 Dorimil

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 10:57 AM

afair the runs to get new chars to niob with a leading-lvl200-char took from 1h (silver - PC could start direct in silver) to 1,5h (platin), just doing the main quest. clearing map and having all portals are basic requirements.

 

just as a hint, how much time you need or has to be beaten! ;)



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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:11 PM

afair the runs to get new chars to niob with a leading-lvl200-char took from 1h (silver - PC could start direct in silver) to 1,5h (platin), just doing the main quest. clearing map and having all portals are basic requirements.
 
just as a hint, how much time you need or has to be beaten! ;)

I don't think that really applies. IIRC, consoles require toons to be within 10 levels in order to do MP.
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Posted 11 January 2016 - 06:03 PM

  1. The quickest speedrun that I can think of is a Shadow Veiled Shadow Warrior on the Dark campaign. I didn't intentionally attempt to make it a speed run though...that's just how it worked out. My character went with Skeletal Fortification and Frenzied Rampage, with high level sockets to add Attack Value+ (to land hits with Frenzied Rampage) and Damage+ (for both CAs). Unfortunately, I have neither a guide or a video for this speed run, but I can post the build if you think it might help.
    Another alternative is the BFG Seraphim. Run by normal mobs and melt bosses with the BFG.
     
  2. A good amount of the strategies from the PC version will work on the console version still, but it's best to look for strategies from the vanilla Sacred 2.
     
  3. As for game mechanics to speed up the run:
    - Use abilities like Assailing Somersault or Shadow Step to move through fences or jump down hills which you would have had to run around otherwise.
    - Think ahead with the Portals and Resurrection Monoliths. For example (assuming you are starting a fresh character), when travelling to the Octagolamus, flag the Resurrection Monolith near it. When you return to Za'Zuruik to turn in the quest (and then have to travel to Blulutuz), you can use the Monolith to cut out a portion of the travel time.

Two quick misc points from Dorimil and Lujate's posts:

  • Console version can start directly in Silver also.
  • Local co-op removes the level gap limit, though online enforces it. So, it's possible to have a level 200 character guide a level 1 character through the game (and quite a challenge to control two characters at the same time...haha).


#6 SteveTheDreamer

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 05:39 AM

Thanks for the replies. I would like to see any builds you have used just to compare with my own. I hadn't thought of using Attack Value+ before. I thought maybe it was one of the skills that was just plain broken or ignored on console. 

 

I think I would like to keep some separate categories for the runs, like "Any%" and "100%" if you are familiar with these common terms from runners on SpeedRunsLive.com

For example, I think starting a fresh naked character, not using anything in the shared chest, nor using a 200 char to forge or carry through the campaign would belong in its own category.

At first I would like to see how fast I could do Bronze difficulty just completing the main campaign story quests. I don't think I'm ready to do a run all the way through Niob because it would take a long time without a 200 char helping. And probably require experience grinding at some point which I would like to avoid if possible.


Though I do like the idea of having to control 2 characters at the same time, that sounds pretty challenging hehe.

 

I never made a Seraphim, so I have only heard of the BFG and dont really know the strategy or build. How does it work?

 

Thanks,






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