gogoblender 3,042 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Can't believe this... I just got the notice in the mail, apparently it's mandatory that we complete the Canadian census either by mail or online. If we don't, we can get fined and go to jail I lucked out, and got the short one... only 8 questions long... apparently one in four Canadians gets the long version... you'll need coffee for it, as it's 61 questions long! gogo Link to comment
Veracious 267 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Lol well Damn. I think the US just uses ss numbers lol 1 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,042 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 Apparently, they need this info to figger out where all the money goes for social programs... our last govt conservatives, removed the mandatory Census (which used to be done in Canada every 5 years) ... but this new govt has just reinstated it... lol...I could go to jail if I dont fill it out by May 9th!~ gogo Link to comment
lujate 572 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I got the US long form some years back. Turns out "I don't know" is not an acceptable answer. They called me, told me I was legally obligated to cooperate, and encouraged me to guess. Link to comment
gogoblender 3,042 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 wow... it's only times like this you realize how much they can do... and I didnt know that there was american law regarding census... is this federal or state? gogo Link to comment
chattius 2,512 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I normally pay too much taxes. Without filling dozens of papers the state would keep the money. Kids belonging to the club of tall people = reducing taxes by the amount you pay extra for larger clothes, living away from village, no taxes for dogs as long they are watch dogs, repairing a house which has historical value = less taxes, books about my work to stay uptodate - can use them to lower taxes, ... 1 Link to comment
lujate 572 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 wow... it's only times like this you realize how much they can do... and I didnt know that there was american law regarding census... is this federal or state? gogo Federal 1 Link to comment
chattius 2,512 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Taxes from income from work, capital ... are withheld directly and are federal ones. You have to do papers if you think you paid too much. Taxes for garbage, water, dogs, ... are community ones. (not connected to communal water supply and watch dogs, so I don't pay for that) Inheritance, beer, gambling, fire protection... are state ones. (normally you can't get anything back here) The online page for taxes has a fitting name ELSTER (=magpie) for ELectronische STeuer ERklärung - electronic tax return 1 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,042 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 Taxes from income from work, capital ... are withheld directly and are federal ones. You have to do papers if you think you paid too much. Taxes for garbage, water, dogs, ... are community ones. (not connected to communal water supply and watch dogs, so I don't pay for that) Inheritance, beer, gambling, fire protection... are state ones. (normally you can't get anything back here) The online page for taxes has a fitting name ELSTER (=magpie) for ELectronische STeuer ERklärung - electronic tax return Is there a mandatory Census for Germany like here in Canada then? gogo Link to comment
chattius 2,512 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Germany changed to a central register with identification numbers. Germany used for the european community census of 2011 a central register and an anonymous interrogation of randomly chosen households to check if the register was at least a bit correct. Religion wasn't asked but name, address, squaremeteres of household, how many people, and all such was asked. We weren't chosen. Wrong answers would have been a crime. 1 Link to comment
podgie_bear 184 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) Apparently, they need this info to figger out where all the money goes for social programs... our last govt conservatives, removed the mandatory Census (which used to be done in Canada every 5 years) ... but this new govt has just reinstated it... lol...I could go to jail if I dont fill it out by May 9th!~ gogo The last time I was expected to fill out a census form I never even recieved it until after the date it was due to be returned by. When they chased me about it I told them it was their fault for sending it by post since it is so unreliable! Nothing happened and I never heard from them again. Edited May 4, 2016 by podgie_bear 1 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,042 Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Apparently, they need this info to figger out where all the money goes for social programs... our last govt conservatives, removed the mandatory Census (which used to be done in Canada every 5 years) ... but this new govt has just reinstated it... lol...I could go to jail if I dont fill it out by May 9th!~ gogo The last time I was expected to fill out a census form I never even recieved it until after the date it was due to be returned by. When they chased me about it I told them it was their fault for sending it by post since it is so unreliable! Nothing happened and I never heard from them again. Is your census form mandatory in UK? gogo Link to comment
podgie_bear 184 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Yep it's still mandatory, although lots of people don't bother and the government don't enforce it the way they used to. Link to comment
gogoblender 3,042 Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Yep it's still mandatory, although lots of people don't bother and the government don't enforce it the way they used to. for us if we dont sent it in , it's a fine, then gogo Link to comment
podgie_bear 184 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I had heard a lot about Canada and its government's dictatorial attitude. My deepest sympathies. Link to comment
gogoblender 3,042 Posted May 6, 2016 Author Share Posted May 6, 2016 What's happened interestingly enough is that this year's crop of citizens, the new millenials, so to speak, responded in overwhelming numbers and speed to the census... in the first day that the census was sent out, they crashed it! :l Canada's 'enthusiasm' for census brings down StatsCan website gogo Link to comment
SX255 630 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 in the first day that the census was sent out, they crashed it! :l GOOD! What the taff is this "answer this census by mail or email, or we drag you to jail" lazy work?! In Estonia we designate official census representatives to do house calls. We only had like 2 in total in my whole life time, and they were only aimed to just to figure what population Estonia has. And no one ever said anything about giving false answers would be a crime. So frak this. They want my honest answer, they can just ask me to vote on it. Link to comment
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