Popular Post Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 Being into Wurm Online a lot and having "my own" alliance, I've also set up a discord channel where we can discuss things. Last night I decided to use Discord to stream a session when playing Sacred 2, as I knew some players are / were interested in that game. To make sure nothing "bad" would happen, I decided to play my Shadow Warrior; as he's by far my strongest character. And also the only one being in Niob without having died, while being "only" level 95. So I started the game, started the stream, had one person joining me there, but managed to keep things interesting enough for her to keep watching it, instead of playing another game. And thus I ran through the area East of Sloeford, killing level 114 Kobolds and their occasional level 115 earth elemental summons, doing quests and explaining what the game was about, how the skill system, item colours and CA system worked. Eventually I ended up in the northern part of that area, where I picked up a quest, then went to the resurrection monolith and wondered if I should pick up the quest from the NPC next to it. In general the consideration was about two things: 1) That monster was known for killing a LOT of starting characters, as it's the first one using debuffing 2) My SW was able to kill most kobolds with 2 hits, their champ versions with 3 hits and most bears and boars with 3 hits as well. Eventhough they're at level 114 and my SW was just at level 95. So I decided to accept that quest and face the White Griffin. And boy, was I mistaken about what to encounter. It was in general the debuffing that eventually killed me. Instead of keeping it as it was after debuffing, I tried to turn them on, forgot about the time it took to finish the animations, talked over the headset and got two big shots of that griffin in a row, while I tried to hit space to counter that first hit. And thus the only character that managed to get into Niob below level 100 without dying, died. Resulting not only in loosing that "record", but also the 93.7%SB I had. Needless to say that I didn't accept the death, went in and killed that Griffin. I just wished I'd done that BEFORE getting killed. But at least the streaming attempt I had in mind had all it should contain, a hero, a tragic death and the demise of a semi-boss monster. Thorin 1 2 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,039 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Thorin Oakshield said: But at least the streaming attempt I had in mind had all it should contain, a hero, a tragic death and the demise of a semi-boss monster. Thorin lol...i SO hate that boss... its a sickly weird strange sensation feeling that everything is not working, and then realizing your buffs are down and then, as your screen red zones and you get that heart palpitating flash... you run.... Ahhh, the memories of HC! Thorin, RIP Mate... and with your brave and strong SW! gogo 1 Link to comment
Flix 5,116 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Haha yeah it's rough. I've lost a 92% Survival Bonus on my first Dragon Mage when testing a mod years ago. Now I always have back up copies of all characters for testing. I actually made the decision just a few weeks ago to remove that debuffing effect from that chain lightning spell completely in my mods. This means The White Griffin, those little Furies in the Northland, and lots of custom creatures will no longer make gameplay so miserable. I decided to replace the effect with a little-used property that penalizes your regeneration times instead. So you still don't want to be hit by it but at least it's not fatal. 1 Link to comment
chattius 2,512 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 I remember a time in german sacred forum when I wrote that I am actually using alchemy in my builds. Alchemy was so useful: mentors for minutes, healing potions doing full heals and best was this trophy you could use for healing. It hadn't the delay healing potions had and it could be used in PvP and against this griphon. How unfair David 1 Link to comment
Delta! 985 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 oh man... sorry to hear you had to take that hit and lose that survival bonus... the white griffin is a bit of a nasty boss to take on... I have run away so many times... and have started spamming my healing potions, not caring about the buffs that are getting debuffed... just trying to kill it as soon as possible... 1 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,039 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 46 minutes ago, Flix said: This means The White Griffin, those little Furies in the Northland, and lots of custom creatures will no longer make gameplay so miserable. I miserable... that was THE word I was looking for! mot juste! gogo Link to comment
Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 Yup, the loss of that huge amount of SB was more painful as the death itself. I see that death a bit as being too confident about being able to deal with Niob monsters at a Platinum level SW, but loosing that SB..... Yet, as the same time I think the entire event showed the person watching me what the game is about; the challenges, the possible death by a monster and how to avenge your own death. It was enough to spark her interest in the game, so who knows; perhaps we got another Sacred(2) addict soon. Most important lesson I learned from it, is to create a backup of my chars. Because the ones I got are way to old to deal with a situation like this..... Thorin 1 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,039 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 19 hours ago, Thorin Oakshield said: Most important lesson I learned from it, is to create a backup of my chars. Because the ones I got are way to old to deal with a situation like this..... Thorin Funny how in HC everyone always has this crazy SB...and I remember somewhere Schot had figgered out a way to get the SB high in game.. sticking your toon around a fence somewhere and taking shots at spawning zombies or something? gogo Link to comment
Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 6 hours ago, gogoblender said: Funny how in HC everyone always has this crazy SB...and I remember somewhere Schot had figgered out a way to get the SB high in game.. sticking your toon around a fence somewhere and taking shots at spawning zombies or something? gogo Gogo, first of all, my char wasn't a HC char; but a SC one. Otherwise I hadn't been able to respawn and kill that griffin afterwards. Second of all, in Sacred 2 you only got SB from fighting, so yes, standing behind a fence and shooting at things would help if you're actually able to get a damaging shot at them. This is unlike Sacred: Underworld, in which you would be able to increase your SB by simply standing close enough to a monster that it would count as being in fighting stance. Thorin Link to comment
Flix 5,116 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Thorin Oakshield said: Second of all, in Sacred 2 you only got SB from fighting, so yes, standing behind a fence and shooting at things would help if you're actually able to get a damaging shot at them. This is unlike Sacred: Underworld, in which you would be able to increase your SB by simply standing close enough to a monster that it would count as being in fighting stance. No, Gogo's right, it works the same way in Sacred 2. If you stand close enough to an enemy for the game to consider you in combat, the Survival Bonus will rise. For example standing at the town limits, close enough to an enemy to draw its attention, but still within town, the enemy will run towards you and then retreat over and over again. This counts as "combat" = more Survival Bonus. I know this because I left my Dragon Mage like that over night to test how much the Survival Bonus would rise. It got back up into the 70's I think. Link to comment
chattius 2,512 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 The last character I played was my singing barbarian in D2F. I used Panzerband (sort of duct tape) for survival bonus. Used a portal in a dead end where normally no enemies spawn. Lured a champion to the place . Did the weakening CA on right mouse button and locked the button with duct tape. Every 0,3s a reduce stats, attack speed, ... on the enemy. Turned off all buffs with reflecting, removed all reflecting gear Enemy did mainly physical damage and I put on everything which did physical damage reduction or armour. I never saw my health reduce but the SB rose. Link to comment
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