Popular Post Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted September 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2020 After writing some advice about a Seraphim, I thought I might as well start up Sacred: Underworld and play her myself. Just to realize I had to re-install the game after I deleted it when Steam messed up my computer. What also means I lost several other characters, but that won't matter now. My first goals: 1) To start out in LAN Bronze, 2) gain enough XP for 5-6 levels 3) Get enough gold to get better gear / potions in Silver 4) Export the character 5) Start in Silver So I started a new character and realized I have already made one mistake the moment I leveled up; I had forgotten to set the default skills to zero, giving me the option to choose my own starting skills. Meaning I'm stuck with Magic Lore and Weapon Lore. Not the worst skills to start with, however, I would prefer Concentration over ML at the start. Anyway, the plan is to build a DW RBoL seraphim, using the best items I can find and at least getting her through Silver; while doing some side quests as well as the main quets. Shouldn't be too hard, I've been doing it plenty of times, but often I used an exported MP character for that. I could still do that, but starting from scratch is so much more fun. So, after creating the character I decided to start an MP game to get early access to the starter's island. The reason; I would find some runes after doing a short questing / killing run in the Bellevue area and I could exchange those runes for at least one RBoL rune. What I forgot, was that in a Co-op game you won't start at the island, but near the Bellevue stables instead. Which was convenient, as I had immediate access to two health potions, but also meant I wasn't able to use the portals under the island to get access to Braverock and Maskarell to do some quests there. So instead I did some of the quests around Bellevue - including the Blacksmith Quest - earning me quite some gold, runes - including one RBoL rune - of which some were exchanged for a 2nd RBol rune, and the Hack; basically one of the better starting weapons. After that I exported the character and started her in Silver at the right spot. Just to find out quite fast that the Hack is indeed a nice weapon, however, it's also pretty useless against a mage; as those have a nice resistance to magic. Fortunately I had a mace in my 2nd weapon slot and the additional firedamage was enough to deal with the mage. And enough to gain a new level; at which I could choose DW as next skill. As for Atribute points; considering this is seraphim is a hybrid, I need to devide my points in 3 atributes: Strength, Physical and Mental Regen; with one point every third level until I get that 2nd atribute point. Which will take a while. For the skills I'll concentrate at WL and Conc to start until both are at the same level as my character. After that I'll drop spare points in ML and DW; or focus at Armor Lore and Constitution first. That is, as soon as I got those skills. For now she's level 6, just did the first step of the main quest, as well as a side quest and is ready to enter Bellevue for more questing. But more about that tomorrow. Thorin 1 1 1 Link to comment
Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 While being at work - and having a low stress day for a change - I realized I made a 2nd mistake. After I got my RBoL rune, I should have continued a bit longer to get a few more runes. Those would be excbanged for a combat jump rune, as well as the creation of a combo with CJ and 3x attack / HH in it, making fighting mobs easier. Not to mention, that jump would've made it easier to access the starters island as well. As for my goals for today; clearing out the Bellevue area, including the few quests related to Silvercreek. I'll get some screenshots about both skills and stats from when starting and finishing today's session as well. Thorin Link to comment
Popular Post Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 Well, it took me some effort, but I managed to get to Porto Vallum. Including Jakob Nortrax; but without his bodyguard Eric. Today's story began at the merchant close to the Seraphim Monastery near Bellevue. Starting skillsStarting Atributes From there I did each available quest in Bellevue; but without triggering some of the more timed ones, like the one to rescue the novice. I've also returned here later to get an additional 700 gold; while I also returned to Bellevue after doing some quests in Silvercreek to get that additional XP from Lady Lintari. And of course, I lost 600 gold from the Shining Light quest, but got XP in return. From there on, it was off to Silvercreek to do the quest to unlock the combo master, getting Angelina rescued - again, without triggering the quest by the quest giver - as well as some more specific quests for the area. Unfortenately I lost the captain when trying to kill the minotaur, although the Marx brothers remained alive. When all quests were done in Silvercreek and having the one of the trade post halfway, it was time to get Jakob and his bodyguard to Porto Vallum. I nearly managed that, but just at the last bend in the road, Eric the bodyguard bought the farm. Meaning I had to fight a mob without some help when encountering 4 of them bloody Goblin shamans, but even that was managed. Albeit with the lost of 75% of my healing pots. As for my skills, I picked constitution as next skill and have brought both WL and Conc to my level; with DW and Cons having 2 points in it right now. I managed to find me some good items, including some doing a nice high amount of RSM and a +1CA item. Not to mention, I also got the Enlightened Iron, meaning I got a slightly increase in MF; on top of that I got from my SB. Which, btw is slowly kicking in, as I was fighting level 16/17 goblins at level 13. I've also found two set items, unfortunately for me, both are useless as they're meant for a Vamp and WE. Still, prospects are looking good and if I'm able to slowly switch to Blue and Yellow items, I'll manage to get through the Porto Vallum area with a bit more ease as through the Goblin Lawn. So, as for skills and atributes after I reached PV: PV Atributes Yes, that gap are the healing pots I lost. PV skills and modifiers Thorin 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted September 24, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 Went from Porto Vallum to Urkenburgh and eventually Florentina today; which wasn't the best trip so far. But...... ... I managed to save Wimpbur, gave him a bow and got a piece of cannon fodder with me for the time being. While being on the rescue mission, I also picked up all quests in PV, finished them all so I got another area at peace. And with the two merchants there, having a small market is always nice. That is, as long as you have some gold to spare, as I ran out at some point. However, while spending my gold, I managed to get me some nice axes, some rings and a few pieces of armour, giving me better stats, but more important, better offensive and defensive capabilities. And since I got another Vamp rune, I got 6%LL right now. Still isn't much and I certainly lack some of the seraphim's set weapons doing LL, but it also means I'm doing some additional damage on top of my normal damage, thus killing any opponents faster. And since that area is crawling with ranged oponents amd goblin shamans, having some extra damage is quite beneficial. My next goal - other as visis the Bloody Baron in Crows Rock Castle - will be to bring Florentina at peace, moving on to the north and either stop at Faeries crossing or take a break there and use the Dungeon Spawn trick to gain some additional levels. Disadvantage of that trick, when I die I'll most likely spawn at the last save point or - worse - at the last campaign save point. Either way, I'm certain I'm able to get to level 25 at that point. As for my current points:Florentina skills and modifiers Florentina Atributes Florentina journal overview Thorin 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted September 25, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2020 I finished the quests in Florentina and Faeries Crossing today, however I failed one because I wasn't fast enough to kill a mage. I've decided not to reload my game to re-do the past after the save, simply because getting a perfect score wasn't my goal anyway. While being at Florentina I got two set drops not long after another. In total I got one Vamp, one Dwarven, one Daemon and one Wood Elf set piece, as well as two Seraphim set pieces. And with those I was lucky, as both items were having a nice bonus to Magic Lore, boosting the damage my RBoL does, without having invested points in ML yet. Uriel's HelmetTalia-Mel's Wristbands With the increased damage from my RBoL, the effect it has at my - now - 6% LL and the fact I'm doing more damage with my two weapons, surviving gets a bit easier. Even when my opponents do have a dark red ring around their feet. The only problem are the ranged characters, as they can do a lot of damage before I even got to them. And quite often they move in packs and attempt to turn my seraphim into a pin-cushion! Fortunately I got that CJ + 3xHH and a CJ + 3x Att combo for that, usually turning those annoying bunch into a dead bunch. All in all I got up to Timberton by now. Deed the quest to find the two rangers, tomorrow I'll head out to do the other quests, as they will be a bit harder to do. So for now, this is the last screenie I got; giving you an impression how my seraphim looks:Bad arse blondie... Thorin 1 1 Link to comment
Zodiac-Mindwarp 24 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Are you playing the regular install of Sacred Underworld from Steam? Or are you playing with the Reborn mod? Link to comment
Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 I'm playing the Steam version and unmodded. Been a while since I played anything else as my Cannon - Flamethrower Dwarf and I realize now how powerful that one was. Thorin Link to comment
Popular Post Zodiac-Mindwarp 24 Posted September 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Thorin Oakshield said: I'm playing the Steam version and unmodded. Been a while since I played anything else as my Cannon - Flamethrower Dwarf and I realize now how powerful that one was. Thorin Thanks for the reply Thorin. 2 Link to comment
Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Zodiac-Mindwarp said: Thanks for the reply Thorin. YW. To start with something I forgot to do yesterday:Skills plus nice dropAtributes and nice drop That nice drop was one of the first things I got today after defeating several monsters. It was more or less the prologue to several set drops, although nothing for a seraphim. I did eventually end up with Jacquaires shield, one or two Vamp armour pieces and a WE ring. Plus lots of gold and several blue items. Oddly enough, nothing yellow, but what hasn't dropped can always drop later. I continued the quests in Timberton, save for one as that was somewhere far in that Orc region and I wasn't in the mood to head their. Besides, with all but one quest completed, I got the region at piece, which was my first goal. With the Timberton portal unlocked, I continued with a shopping trip to Porto Vallum; where I upgraded most of my weaponry and some armour pieces. Yet, for now my seraphim is stuck with the two set pieces and the unique until I find something really better. Good thing - for me - the set pieces got slots, so it's possible to "upgrade" them by adding better amulets. Not the most ideal solution, but one that does work. After Timberton it was off to Crow's Rock Castle, where I did several quests as well, plus updated my main quest, bringing me to the point where I have to decide to take a side turn and exterminate an overgrown lizzard, or continue with the main quest by heading to Wolf Dale, then to Ice Creek Pass and Slater's Grave, at which point I'll have to do a large part of the main questline alone. Seeing the amount of SB I've gathered - it's somewhere around 31% right now - I know that lizzard will be 1-3 levels above my own. I also know Wimpbur is still going down easily, although he is quite useful as distraction or to eat damage away. I also know that my RBoL and 6% LL are good enough to damage that lizzard, plus that I got the right weaponry for it. But I wonder if I got the potions for that encounter, so perhaps shopping for those would be a better idea. So for now:Crow's Rock skills Crow's Rock atributes Thorin 1 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,070 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 4:33 PM, Thorin Oakshield said: After writing some advice about a Seraphim, I thought I might as well start up Sacred: Underworld and play her myself. Just to realize I had to re-install the game after I deleted it when Steam messed up my computer. What also means I lost several other characters, but that won't matter now. My first goals: 1) To start out in LAN Bronze, 2) gain enough XP for 5-6 levels 3) Get enough gold to get better gear / potions in Silver 4) Export the character 5) Start in Silver So I started a new character and realized I have already made one mistake the moment I leveled up; I had forgotten to set the default skills to zero, giving me the option to choose my own starting skills. Meaning I'm stuck with Magic Lore and Weapon Lore. Not the worst skills to start with, however, I would prefer Concentration over ML at the start. Anyway, the plan is to build a DW RBoL seraphim, using the best items I can find and at least getting her through Silver; while doing some side quests as well as the main quets. Shouldn't be too hard, I've been doing it plenty of times, but often I used an exported MP character for that. I could still do that, but starting from scratch is so much more fun. So, after creating the character I decided to start an MP game to get early access to the starter's island. The reason; I would find some runes after doing a short questing / killing run in the Bellevue area and I could exchange those runes for at least one RBoL rune. What I forgot, was that in a Co-op game you won't start at the island, but near the Bellevue stables instead. Which was convenient, as I had immediate access to two health potions, but also meant I wasn't able to use the portals under the island to get access to Braverock and Maskarell to do some quests there. So instead I did some of the quests around Bellevue - including the Blacksmith Quest - earning me quite some gold, runes - including one RBoL rune - of which some were exchanged for a 2nd RBol rune, and the Hack; basically one of the better starting weapons. After that I exported the character and started her in Silver at the right spot. Just to find out quite fast that the Hack is indeed a nice weapon, however, it's also pretty useless against a mage; as those have a nice resistance to magic. Fortunately I had a mace in my 2nd weapon slot and the additional firedamage was enough to deal with the mage. And enough to gain a new level; at which I could choose DW as next skill. As for Atribute points; considering this is seraphim is a hybrid, I need to devide my points in 3 atributes: Strength, Physical and Mental Regen; with one point every third level until I get that 2nd atribute point. Which will take a while. For the skills I'll concentrate at WL and Conc to start until both are at the same level as my character. After that I'll drop spare points in ML and DW; or focus at Armor Lore and Constitution first. That is, as soon as I got those skills. For now she's level 6, just did the first step of the main quest, as well as a side quest and is ready to enter Bellevue for more questing. But more about that tomorrow. Thorin Great Thorin... like a nostalgic visit back into the deeps of Ancaria... Where did the name BRAFIKA origin from? gogo 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 hours ago, gogoblender said: Great Thorin... like a nostalgic visit back into the deeps of Ancaria... Where did the name BRAFIKA origin from? gogo That name is a bit of a mesh-up of the name of a former female co-worker I've liked and still like a lot. I used it once - and with her permission - in a story I wrote several years ago and thought it was having that bit of a mistique touch to apply to a Seraphim as well. Orignally I had in mind to use the full name Brafika iz Hrvatske, but eventually decided not to as I found Brafika to be enough. And yes, it's indeed a nostalgic visit to Ancaria. The Seraphim was the first character I played in MP, after having tried a Gladiator in SP. I've always had great fun with a seraphim in MP - and if not mistaken you too with your Celestial beam build - and especially with a similar build as I'm currently working at. Only difference, with all those people playing MP, I usually was able to upgrade her set items every 15 or so levels; while in SP I really have to rely at drops or what's being found at merchants. Since I haven't picked my final skills yet, I may actually add shopping to the list. At least that would make getting better items a bit easier. But at the same time it would make it impossible to choose some defensive skills, so I haven't decided about it yet. I still got about half the levels to go, before I hit level 50, so we'll see. Thorin 1 1 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,070 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 18 hours ago, Thorin Oakshield said: That name is a bit of a mesh-up of the name of a former female co-worker I've liked and still like a lot. I used it once - and with her permission - in a story I wrote several years ago and thought it was having that bit of a mistique touch to apply to a Seraphim as well. Orignally I had in mind to use the full name Brafika iz Hrvatske, but eventually decided not to as I found Brafika to be enough. And yes, it's indeed a nostalgic visit to Ancaria. The Seraphim was the first character I played in MP, after having tried a Gladiator in SP. I've always had great fun with a seraphim in MP - and if not mistaken you too with your Celestial beam build - and especially with a similar build as I'm currently working at. Only difference, with all those people playing MP, I usually was able to upgrade her set items every 15 or so levels; while in SP I really have to rely at drops or what's being found at merchants. Since I haven't picked my final skills yet, I may actually add shopping to the list. At least that would make getting better items a bit easier. But at the same time it would make it impossible to choose some defensive skills, so I haven't decided about it yet. I still got about half the levels to go, before I hit level 50, so we'll see. Thorin She's always been the most dramatic out of the Classes to play IMO... the celestial light and the rbols... there was nothing like it at the time, and seeing fifteen cl's light down to smite out evil was always immensely satisfying gogo Link to comment
Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 I just notice I hadn't updated after my previous session, yet there isn't much to tell. After the conversation to De Mordrey I decided to visit his pet dragon a visit. Well, that was a bad choice I barely managed to turn into a bad mistake. The trip through the dungeon was done while using about half my health potions. Four more pots were consumed before I even managed to get to the dragon and attack it; while Wimpbur passed out twice during that small trip. By the time I was able to attack the dragon, I didn't even scratch it. That is to say, over time I scratched it, but it took me way to long to do actual damage. So I decided to leave it be and retreated, knowing I may have another chance in the future, And while typing this, I realized that "in the future" I must kill a certain dragon to continue the main quest. Anyway, instead of killing oversized lizzards, I went on to Wolf Dale, doing the quest there, taking the cave to Slater's Grave, doing quests there and eventually continuing to Ice Creek Dale to contact the captain of the Sharuka guard. After that........ ..... end of Act I, thank you Wimpbur for being cannon fodder for some time and off to Act II. So I ventured south by taking the portal to Porto Vallum and doing some serious shopping. After having upgraded my weapons and armour, I moved on to the west, turned south at Wyvern Pass and discovered that my upgrades weren't enough. Yet, the Urkuk portal was found and added to my list, I managed to find the waterbottle and even managed to get out of the desert alive, before I finished in Porto Draco. It's there I began checking a few things and noticed that my Seraphim is very underpowered and "under defenced". Main reason; The item quality. While she got 50% survival bonus by now, the item quality of drops is in one word: awful. About 98% of the drops are white items; gold or potions, about 1.5% are blue items and the other 0.5% are yellow items. Or perhaps it's even less as that 0.5%, as up to now I've found TWO! yellow items. Yes, I've found set items; even got out of the desert with an Eggil's X-bow, but I only got 2 seraphim items so far. And those are getting out classed as they're around level 15; while my character managed to get to level 30+. Same thing can be said from the shops. Since my seraphim doesn't have bargaining, the items in shops remain white. Most items don't even have slots, making it even harder to find good items. And if I see a blue item, it doesn't have slots at all, meaning it's either a choice of going for the bonii or for the slots. Fortunately I got some easy quets to do in Porto Draco and Mascarell; but I don't think I'll go out and look for a certain dragon. Not even with most of my inventory filled with health potions. Despite having WL maxed and having quite a high number of strength and physical regen, this seraphim's too weak to face a dragon right now. But things can chance, so who knows what happens after I travelled to Tyrr Fasul to see Valor...... Thorin 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted October 3, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2020 New update: Not a long trip today; just from Porto Draco to Mascarell, but enough to get me two more levels. And irony oh irony, I've begun to find magic and special (blue and yellow) items. Not that many to know things are getting better, but at least an improvement over what I had before. I even found an unique ring; which I even didn't notice I picked up, until the moment I was going to sell some stuff. Needless to say that ring is now equipped. And last but not least, I picked up Thain's Axe; imho the best one handed axe in the game; if it wasn't for that 20 AL requirement. Which means I need to find a ring doing either Concentration or WL as requirement to override that. Going to be fun, without having bargaining as skill. Skill wise things are improving too, now I got 4 skill points to spend. Two are still dropped in WL and Conc, but the other two are spend at Cons; thus increasing my health a lot better, making the use of potions a bit less of a mandatory action. But I still think she isn't strong enough to face a dragon, although things slowly are starting to look good. Quest wise things progressed well. I did all quests in the Porto Draco and Mascarell region - took the unknown warrior to Tyrr Fasul and am currently considering to move into the Ice Elf region or not. Given that this seraphim isn't strong enough to deal with one dragon, I doubt she'll be able to deal with twins. But then, there's the option to kite a dragon out of that area without alerting the other..... So, for skills, atributes and other stats; they're done in safe area's only from now on, as I prefer to show the "undressed" skills: Tyrr Fasul skils Tyrr Fasul atributes Tyrr Fasul SB Tyrr Fasul general stats Thorin 1 1 Link to comment
Thorin Oakshield 260 Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 I tried to access Tyr Fasul with this seraphim yesterday, but gave up when I had to swallow several potions in a row to survive. Knowing I have to kill a Dragon to continue the main quest, I've decided to put her on halt - or even stop completely - until I've worked out a better way to deal with her lack of resistance and health.j However...................... *drumroll* *longer drumroll* *even longer drumroll* *Smacks drummer to stop the drumroll* Right; However..... *eyes the drummer to make sure he won't start another drumroll* Good boy. Now, however.... *faint drumroll* I've recently started a Dwarf using my favorite Cannonblast / Flamethrower combo. This time I may actually give him both trading and forging to see how well that build may become. Also means I have to drop a defensive skill, but knowing how strong that build can be, I think he'll survive. So more or less to be continued in a new topic. Thorin Link to comment
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