Veracious 267 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Oh I know. Danny's story has stalled so hard. I can't even watch most of her scenes anymore. 1 Link to comment
cyclops 15 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Saw the teaser for the Battle of the Barstewards! and looks like Jon's cavalry and footmen are taking a beating from Ramsay's archers and pikemen. 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Knuckles 904 Posted June 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2016 Yeah as Flix mentioned, Jon and friends will be losing the battle until the Knights of the Vale arrive to save the day. Ramsay has a lot more men and they are better trained. Jon's force is mostly made up of Wildings with no training at all. Only advantage they have is Wun Wun. I don't think there is anyone else close enough to help Jon. Daenerys' forces still haven't left Essos yet and don't have an immediate interest in this battle. Any land force other than the Northern houses will most likely have to pass through the twin towers of Frey, if they want to arrive in time. And Frey will be hostile to any North sympathizers And just in case anyone from Game of Thrones is lurking.....please please do not let Wun Wun die....I really like the big fella. Not sure but I think he's the last of the giants. 2 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,069 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Oh I know. Danny's story has stalled so hard. I can't even watch most of her scenes anymore. I agree. Though I found the dragon's flight scenes to be beautiful... grown so much... overall the entire feeling of seeing her once again yelling out to the troops came off to me as being boring gogo 1 Link to comment
Veracious 267 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Yea that speech was painful. Almost as bad as Kristen Stewart in snow white and the huntsman. 1 Link to comment
Veracious 267 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 YAY FINALLY SOME ACTION!!! 1 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,069 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 AWESOME!! Perfect ending for Ramsey.. perfect gogo Link to comment
cyclops 15 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 AWESOME! Perfect ending for Ramsey.. perfect gogo Ramsey is dead? So who saved the day for Jon and Sansa? Link to comment
Knuckles 904 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 AWESOME! Perfect ending for Ramsey.. perfect gogo Ramsey is dead? So who saved the day for Jon and Sansa? So you're asking....... Now I got to find another villian to hate... Cersei....Don't hate her yet but I think she's going to go bat poop crazy soon Euron Greyjoy....guess he could work but needs to be more central to story...just a bit player now Melisandre...for what she did to Shereen....but she did save Jon Theon....for sacking Winterfell and killing those boys...but I think he got his punishment...I feel bad for him more than anything else Night's King....Sure could hate this guy...but part of me blames the Children of the Forest for them...they created them and lost control So I guess there is no true anti-hero for me...no Joffrey, no Ramsay, heck no Stannis...there are characters I don't like but no one that really really deserves all my hate. Link to comment
Knuckles 904 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 AWESOME! Perfect ending for Ramsey.. perfect gogo Poor Rickon...we hardly knew you Perfect revenge for Sansa....plus Jon was able to give him a good thumping....win win all around (well not for Rickon but otherwise) 1 Link to comment
Veracious 267 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I thought that final show down between Jon and ramsay would be longer. And poor giant. Wasn't he the last of his kind? 1 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,069 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I thought that final show down between Jon and ramsay would be longer. And poor giant. Wasn't he the last of his kind? I think he was... loved how they really showed how fervent he was for the cause, and broke my heart after seeing him get to the final gate with all those arrows, only to have one take him out by that dastardly Barsteward's arrow throw his eyeball... You just can't make Ramses suffer enough gogo Link to comment
gogoblender 3,069 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 AWESOME! Perfect ending for Ramsey.. perfect gogo Poor Rickon...we hardly knew you Perfect revenge for Sansa....plus Jon was able to give him a good thumping....win win all around (well not for Rickon but otherwise) And that's probably the reason my 'poor rickon" was more of a cognitive accordance rather than that of a heart felt emotive one. ..we hardly knew him...and in fact, I consider he got off lucky. The way the camera was trailing Ramsay's hand when he popped Rickon out of hiding for that final showdown, and considering how much time he'd had him as captive and what he's done to to others, Rickon had a subjectively quicker death, and at least died trying to get back to his family gogo Link to comment
Veracious 267 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I really wanted the Jon v ramsay fight to happen. I can't belIeve how short it was. It may have eclipsed Jon's revival as worst reveal. I'm confused as to what the writers are doing this year. And now there's only a half season to end the show next year. I can't handle this crap. Link to comment
Knuckles 904 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 AWESOME! Perfect ending for Ramsey.. perfect gogo Poor Rickon...we hardly knew you Perfect revenge for Sansa....plus Jon was able to give him a good thumping....win win all around (well not for Rickon but otherwise) And that's probably the reason my 'poor rickon" was more of a cognitive accordance rather than that of a heart felt emotive one. ..we hardly knew him...and in fact, I consider he got off lucky. The way the camera was trailing Ramsay's hand when he popped Rickon out of hiding for that final showdown, and considering how much time he'd had him as captive and what he's done to to others, Rickon had a subjectively quicker death, and at least died trying to get back to his family gogo Yeah Sansa knew he was a dead man...Rickon was more a threat to Ramsay than Sansa or Jon....he's basically the heir of Winterfell...he outranked both Sansa (girl) and Jon (Barsteward) in the line of succession. Of course Bran outranks Rickon but everyone thinks he's dead. Sansa knew Ramsay would never let him go. It's been pretty cool (and a bit sad) to see both Sansa and Arya's transformation from young innocent girls to the cold heartless women they have been forced to become. Sansa is learning the Great Game and how to manipulate people...a far cry from the girl who fanatized about Joffrey being her king and husband. And Arya went from a tomboy to assassin 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Knuckles 904 Posted June 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2016 I really wanted the Jon v ramsay fight to happen. I can't belIeve how short it was. It may have eclipsed Jon's revival as worst reveal. I'm confused as to what the writers are doing this year. And now there's only a half season to end the show next year. I can't handle this crap. I pretty sure there are 2 seasons left but as you said only half the number of episodes. I don't know if it's because this is the first season I haven't read the book for yet, or because this is the first season I'm not binge watching the whole thing. But this season just seems so different than the others. I can't really put my finger on it and it could be just my imagination. Or it could be the writers like you said. There hasn't been a true Holy Hannah! moment for me....nothing has really been unexpected....Sure the Hound still being alive could qualify but he's not a huge character in the show....Jon being ressurected is another, but almost everyone knew he was coming back. The only Holy Hannah! moment I can think of is Daenerys burning all the Khals (but even then you knew somehow she was going to get the Dothraki on her side) Edit: got hit by the gogo nono corrector lol...I didn't type Holy Hannah 4 Link to comment
Veracious 267 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Lol I've gotten hit by it quite a few times. I forget what form I'm on sometimes. As for why the feel is different I believe MARTIN is not collaborating this season. He's working on book six himself so they have completely gone their own ways at the moment. The writers are alone in writing the episodes this year and so they seem to be floundering a little on their own. As for season eight they are speculating that there will be one but only seven is guaranteed right now from what I read. And since they're already working on the prequel series season eight us even less likely. Link to comment
gogoblender 3,069 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 lol, holy hannah... im gonna have to find that program one day and see the list of words... And... here's something to chew on... u guys think Sansa masterminded this whole "trap" to catch Ramsey with Jon as bait? She'd already written off Rickon, as she shows when she walks away and states flatly that Ramsey is gonna die next day... I'm thinking she's filled with rage, will do anything to Ramsey In fact, who wouldn't? gogo Link to comment
Veracious 267 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 If she had the foresight to tell Jon that whatever ramsay does it's all to manipulate you to get you where he wants you, then she's bright enough to have been able to use his ignorance as a trap for ramsay. One point though she sent the letter to little finger before all this. So the timing may just have been coincidence. It's a good theory though. She's really evolving as a player on the chess board now. I'm still wondering if she's pregnant. If she accepts little fingers marriage proposal and consummates quick enough she night be and to hide the baby's true father. At this point I think she's capable of it. 1 Link to comment
Knuckles 904 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 The thought of Littlefinger and Sansa marrying made me throw up a little in my mouth.....ok more than a little...that thought is just sooo repugnant to me....... Let's list her marriages shall we Joffrey....was only betrothed but he ended being a monster and abused her Tyrion....who everyone thinks is a monster, but the only one to ever treat her kindly (btw she was promised to Loras in between Joffrey and Tyrion and she was all a flutter about that, but....just not seeing that marriage ever getting consumated if it had happened) Ramsay....the ultimate sadistic Barsteward....easily the worst of the bunch and that's saying something since Joffrey is part of this list....cannot imagine the trauma, both mental and physical that that has caused and is still causing her. So her marrying Littlefinger sickens me because.... 1) He's old enough to be her father 2) Helped cause her father's downfall/death 3) Lusted after her mother 4) Lying, backstabing, conniving, scheming little man 5) He may not have invented the Great Game but he's a master at it....no way Sansa can compete with that 6) Convinced her to marry Ramsay. Though I truly believe he had no idea what Ramsay was....but he should have known....seems to know about everything else 7) Killed her aunt though strangely don't really hold that against him much Now if she hints at marriage to get him to do something, then that would be cool....I can see Littlefinger thinking "If I can't have Cat then I'll have the next best thing...her daughter". And Sansa plays off that and beats him at his own game. Think he is too methodical otherwise...but love/lust does strange things to people and has them do things they would never consider. Was looking for someone new to hate after Ramsay died.....now after writing this I think I know who to root against 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Flix 5,116 Posted June 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2016 Baelish single-handedly engineered the War of the Five Kings. There is no one responsible for more misery and death than he. He's hard to hate though. He's so brilliant, you're almost just in awe. He always has a backup scheme. He'll probably want to go on and marry Robin Arryn to Sansa. Since Robin is his puppet, the Vale is basically his. Then he'd have both the North and the Vale in his pocket. I doubt Sansa will be as easy to rein in as in the past though. 2 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,069 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 You're right... till you listed them all, I'd forgotten how many marriages poor Sansa has had to endure. If she had the foresight to tell Jon that whatever ramsay does it's all to manipulate you to get you where he wants you, then she's bright enough to have been able to use his ignorance as a trap for ramsay. One point though she sent the letter to little finger before all this. So the timing may just have been coincidence. It's a good theory though. She's really evolving as a player on the chess board now. I'm still wondering if she's pregnant. If she accepts little fingers marriage proposal and consummates quick enough she night be and to hide the baby's true father. At this point I think she's capable of it. I was wondering about her pregnancy as well! She hates Ramsay so much though... and those words, that his entire line will be forgotten... I'm not sure if she's pregnant she'll be happy about it... and is that what Ramsey actually meant? How does he know for sure she's pregnant... a guess, something to spook her with? gogo Link to comment
gogoblender 3,069 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Noone is better at the game than Baelish...and in fact, there are moments when he puts Ramsey to shame.. nice list u put up there Knuckles on why Baelish is bad...but this monologue I just dug up is, I believe, one of the single most frightening, gruesome and violent scenes in all of Game of Thrones I seen... chilled me then, and still does now... Baelish is scary gogo Link to comment
Knuckles 904 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Yeah I wonder sometimes what his end game is....can't just be power...Perhaps the true protagonist is Varys and the antagonist is Littlefinger...and everyone else are just players in their chess match Wonder sometimes if it's his revenge...kind of the 'little man' syndrome.....he can't compete physically with anyone...he'll never be in a joust or contest of arms.....his house is too minor to ever be an important player....Heck even his nickname is a jape on his house/manliness I can't see Sansa wanting to marry Robyn after the time she spent with him in the Vale. Don't think she cares for him much. But he is a weak person...Sansa could play on that and be the true ruler of the North and the Vale....would be a formidable power base. So I could see her doing that to increase her power, plus she would be in charge not Robyn and sure that has a lot of appeal for her. As you said Flix...I don't think Littlefinger will be able to control Sansa at all.....so to me he stands to lose both the North and the Vale if they marry....Sansa is super mad at Petyr and doubt she would agree to anything that hurts her position. Maybe Petyr betraying Ned was a way to get back at Ned's brother for embarrasing him and giving him a scar as a token when he thought to fight for Cat. Or killing Ned was a way for him to try and win Cat. Though she never saw him as anything other than a brother. Link to comment
Knuckles 904 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Gogo that video you embedded won't play here....the owner of video has disabled it from playing on any website other than Youtube Link to comment
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