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51 minutes ago, Sethi22 said:

But I really don't understand, why you say that you don't trade damage for it. Why not? Socketing everything with mitigation stuff surely takes it's toll on the damage, no?

In the end you are not socketing "everything" with mitigation stuff. But of course you are right that if you put in "whet" arts instead you get a miniscule amount of damage instead.

 

3 hours ago, SLD said:

oh btw. the second upload attempt just failed, so I guess I'll have to record a shorter one.

Edit: Shorter one is attempting to upload now... So I guess I'll wait for another hour...
I wonder if it breaks of exactly at one hour, as there was the same problem when trying to download files for the addendum. Maybe there is always a 1 hour cutoff.

Edit 2: This time it failed far quicker. So I guess playing Sacred 2 while uploading was not a good idea. I just have to sit here and babysit it. :cow:

Edit 3: And it failed again...

Now I did round 4. This time I watched that upload progress all the way to 100%. I had to watch it for about an hour...
And it failed at completion. With an "error code -200". Googling that one interestingly enough quickly led to a thread on the invision community forums, even though I didn't even google for such specifics: 
https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/topic/462553-error-code-200/

So at this point I am convinced, that there is nothing I can do about this. Maybe really short videos could make it through, if it has anything to do with the upload time, but I mean it's only 4:28 mins.

Well I just did some research and it turns out that my 4 and a half minutes video is a tiny bit larger than ric's 3 min guardian fight. Just a tiny factor of ~4.5 or so :)
Sadly the xbox game bar recording solution doesn't allow me to reduce the video quality any further. I will try some stuff and see if I can upload something shorter or otherwise diminished :)

Posted (edited)

So here we are, after 10 hours of trying to upload a 5 minute video that I basically had to record twice as a whole and once split up in 5 parts now you get those 5 parts split across three download threads:

Edit: Links were removed as per Gogo's cleanup :) Video can now be viewed on youtube, see below. The rest of this post has not been altered.

@gogoblender I hope you have at least as much fun cleaning up that mess :)
My guess is there is some kind of upload size limit but not for a single file or a single account, no it's for a single download thread. We got a relatively precise measurement of it being somewhere between 149mb and 19Xmb so I guess it's 150mb?

If you could allow some 330mb I could upload that four and a half minute video as a non- hackjob. For now this forum massacre was the best workaround I could find. :connie_xmas-moose:

Edit: Gogo has made a youtube playlist for those who don't want to download that mess.
I highly advise watching it there :)

 

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This forum life is a hard one, yes. I feel your pain too. I did my acute observations about the videos there, in download 1? But I didn't know that you can't post there normally as here, it's awaiting approval from a moderator. But as usual, there was absolutely no useful info in it, so if it gets axed, you won't miss much. Special thanks for upload 5, I hadn't seen that then, you show your inventory and skill screen! Well done! Rest now old man, take a sip or two of your hidden reserves of T-energy drinks, and if at any point you feel that uploading a video (or screenshots maybe? Easier, no?) of your items in the smithing screen as well, that would be great. Until everything is socketed with sera phys mitigation runes, there's not much to see, sure, but later on maybe?

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42 minutes ago, Sethi22 said:

everything is socketed with sera phys mitigation runes, there's not much to see, sure, but later on maybe?

currently there are 2 slots no longer needing runes so I put dot reduction amulets in there. But I'll have to rework my gear for the llech% set bonus. Not sure how much space I'll have then. The gear is really not that interesting, it's all self found with neither ep nor bargaining after all.

46 minutes ago, Sethi22 said:

Special thanks for upload 5

I thought you would like that cuddling with the orcs, to see with your own eyes what phys mitigation does. The only regret I have is that I didn't turn off the warding energy buff in the middle of them :)
Opening the inventory and skills screens was just something I could do while waiting for the orcs to not do damage. The gear pieces are all set items so they should be recognizable that way already. The jewellery is one "-% evade chance" and one "regen per hit" ring combined with an amulet that gives like 4 or 5 to toughness. I just don't have a third dot reduction oneand nothing else to put there.

I don't think I have to explain the bfg, the wapon slot 4 contains a buff bonus set for the warding energy buff containing a celioth's ward and a parashu each socketed with +all skills amulets.
The relic holder I think is quite well visible again, for the non colourblind. But by now I only ever use the mixed triple with magiic, poison, fire.

Everything else should be covered by the "diary".

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1 hour ago, Sethi22 said:

And although at a much slower pace, but your lightsaber build have succesfully made it to gold today,

How many hours did it take? The game keeps track of this, it's visible in the character selection screen or ingame where the Life, regen, sb, movespeed, kills etc is shown.

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Hahhh! You germans and your efficient ways! 13 hours, which you will undoubtedly find way too much, but I took down all the dragons, and most bosses I think, and of course a lot of it was spent standing around somewhere afk.

 

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37 minutes ago, Sethi22 said:

Hahhh! You germans and your efficient ways! 13 hours, which you will undoubtedly find way too much, but I took down all the dragons, and most bosses I think, and of course a lot of it was spent standing around somewhere afk.

Well, I gotta disappoint you there. As is already in the diary it took me 26 hours for the silver campaign and I did not kill all dragons or sidebosses. You were way faster.

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20 minutes ago, Sethi22 said:

But I'll slow down now in gold, and do an honest grind this time!

There's nothing wrong with being faster, as long as you can safely progress, why not? And you already pointed out all the reasons you were faster. What level did you end silver with?

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It looks awesome! link works now here as an embed... The BFG looks great.  Been a while since I seen anyones BFG video build here on the forum... :mafia:  
Hope its as much fun for you to play as it is for us to watch. Thanks for the share!

 

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You don't like orc caving, you don't like the campaign, and you don't really like bossfights either, because you leave some dragons and minibosses standing. Then what DO you like? Playing with a maxed out character with 100% mitigation for every damage type? And what do you do with that chap? Kill kobolds, or what?:dntknw:

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You remind me of someone, SLD. Not because of your play style, your passion for Sacred 2, and not even because of your ability to articulate your thoughts well.

Spoiler

You see, his name was Dan Singh Cowe. :cow:

 

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53 minutes ago, SLD said:

 

46 minutes ago, SLD said:

 I left out grinding the forest guardian because I considered that thing a bug and wanted a run as legit as possible.

Why? What bug? 

 

 

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Ok, it's update and question time for the LIGHTSABER build. Although at a much slower pace, but he has just arrived to platinum, level 78. Physical mitigation is currently 93%, could easily be 100%, getting there IS easy with physical, at least with SW. The rest of the mitigations are somewhere between 20-40%. I was dumb enough to take toughness as the last skill for some unknown reason, so it's still far from being mastered, once it gets there, physical will go to 100%. No problem. Armor lore IS already mastered though, so the all channel mitigation on the Kanka cuirass that's tied to armor lore mastery is already working. (I also found a "Darwargon's circlet" on the way, that has every type of mitigation on it.) At the moment I'm using the Withered staff as offhand weapon, that gives a nice chunk of mitigation from fire. I still don't have % lifeleech on anything, so getting that might change this...

It's also worth noting, (although I guess this was obvious for most of you, but not for me) that runes don't have a level requirement, so you can socket niobium Sera runes with their 5.5% phys mitigation even on bronze, if you have a character there already. It took me quite some time to realize this...

His damage (with a level 10 lightsaber) is around 8000 at the moment (my tactics lore is crap, only a few points in it, and still only 1 rune read in Demonic Blow (I never use Frenzied, DB modded for Area of Effect is perfectly fine for me in every stituation)). DW focus is kept at level, and Grim resilience has I think around 100 runes read in it (could be 200, I have no idea why I haven't read the rest yet, mainly down to laziness, I think). This way my willpower is around 1400, meaning that even 2-3 base damage difference on the rings socketed into the lightsabers results in almost 1000 damage on the real floating damage numbers. And here is where my questions start @SLDsir.

So I farmed a two socketed lightsaber for every damage type, and filled them with the matching damage converters, this way I have four lightsabers needing 8 new rings on every few levels. (I know this is not needed, but going in with the one the enemy has the least resistance to is worth it I think, and switching colors sometimes is also nice...) Now at level 78 the best rings I can find as loot give 15 base damage. Yet when I go shopping for them, I get 11, sometimes, rarely  12 maybe. On the other hand my level 122 Niobium shopper guy usually buys rings with 29 base damage on them at the moment.

So 1.: Has Bargaining got anything to do with the damage roll on the rings? I thought no, so only the rarity of the item is affected, but I'm really not sure at this point, I'm confused. Reading the wiki didn't make me any smarter either. Going from damage rings with 1 damage on them to 11 in 77 levels, and then from 11 to 29 in 44 levels is somewhat strange. So is this because the big guy has bargaining and the small one does not? Or is it because the damage on the rings goes up quicker on higher levels maybe? Removing my bargaining suit didn't change the results, so I guess it's more connected to levels somehow...

2.: The small dude with the lightsabers has Enhanced perception only, (although still low level, only the +all skills and the relics with EP on them going at the moment, only 1 point in it).  Has EP got something to do with the fact that I find better rings than what I can shop for? Originally I thought that this is not the case, and only rarity is affected here as well, but I'm really not sure now. I simply cannot shop for rings with the same damage numbers on them as the ones I can find as loot (And finding 8 of them every few levels is a bit unrealistic...)

3.: At the part where you wrote about how attribute damage works, you gave fictional numbers 10-100 about the base damage on these rings. I would like to know more about the real numbers. What's your highest level char, and what are the damage numbers on those rings he finds or buys? You woke up the scientist in me sir, although he was buried deep down, now I'm even looking at numbers and calculating stuff! Look at me! :chattius: So basically the 3 questions are really 1: I want to know EVERYTHING about these flat damage rings: how to get them in the most efficient way with the best rolls, what affects these rolls and what to expect on higher levels? I want all of my lightsabers to be in PERFECT shape all of the time, meaning socketed with the best damage rings I can get at that level. (I really like upgrading them and watching the damage numbers go up:drool:)

I don't know how dumb these questions are, maybe it's something everybody apart from me knows, maybe not. But I want to know how all this works for real now!

And I also wanted to update the mitigation part for newbies interested maybe: if I could get to (almost) 100% phys mitigation already at level 78, anyone can really. It's easy-peasy. I currently have only 5 sockets filled with Sera phys mitigation runes, so it's not like everything needs to be sacrificed for it!

The rest seems much harder, apart from getting toughness to char level and keeping it there, there's not much I can do at the moment... Hopefully I'll find stuff with other types of mitigation on them...

And here is one for this wonderful build! :lujate: I haven't had this much fun with a Sacred 2 build in a long time! Anyone wanting a strong and easy melee build should look no further! (The only thing sad about it is that all the beautiful high level lightsabers I keep finding seem to be nothing but junk now, anything above level 10 is worthless garbage, I don't even know why I keep them any more...)

(ps: Oh! And about the debuffing thing with the Griffin: I just fought him on platinum, and the first time he debuffed me, it was my grim resilience he took away first, which was the first buff. So it's not always the last one! Usually yes, but not always!)

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Wooohooo, look what the Big Bad Werewolf just dropped for me! Whatda! Twice as much damage as the best one I can find at the same level! I'm trembling! I'm going to pass out! :cstars:What will happen to my damage once I socket this beauty in?

So well over 11000 it is from 8000 now. More than 3000 damage from one socket is not that bad, at least at level 78! I NEED more of these!!! :wub:

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, SLD said:

This is wrong. You can't directly see it unless socketed, but runes do have a level requirement. It is however relatively low. A niobium rune is a lvl 50 item and therefore it requires level 39 to equip an item socketed with one. Gold and plat runes also have level requirements. Only silver and bronze ones can be used at level 1.

 

Yes, sorry about this, I was above 50 when it even occured to me that maybe I could try the Nio runes instead of the ones at my own difficulty. But at least half of it was true: You CAN equip them even in bronze or silver, only the "no item level" part sucked...Well, what can I say? I'm horrible at testing things and "thinking outside of the box" in general... :sigh:

11 hours ago, SLD said:

The science guy to talk to for the real details is Maneus.
I am lazy and imprecise. :connie_xmas-moose:

 

Haha, going to Maneus' thread and checking files would do me no good I'm afraid, I'm perfectly fine with your lazy and imprecise version. I didn't mean a scientist of THAT caliber, but some sort of hatchling, baby scientist. Beginning to learn about numbers and stuff. (To be honest, until now I was doing more math at the grocery store than when playing Sacred...:))

Interesting things these you write about rarity tiers, so there WAS something weird going on here in both cases! I knew it. I tried and tried and tried to shop for the same rings as I could find, but after a loooooong time, I became fed up with it. I still wasn't sure if I had been desperately unlucky all the way, or EP and Bargaining had something to do with all this. But to be fair, finding that one Jotun's maw made all these problems irrelevant, and the solution is clear: pump EP like crazy and find more of those! :cool:

11 hours ago, SLD said:

raising armor lore would also increase the values from your kanka's chest. At least until you hit 250 armor lore. This linked mitigation mod will also go up when you are in higher difficulties. You don't need a higher difficulty item for that, so just by entering a platinum instead of a gold game you already have higher mitigation from linked mods.

 

Now this is GREAT news I had no idea about! The Wiki doesn't say anything about this, at least not there, at the Kanka's Relics page. Good thing I poked you again, I would never have found this out, I wanted to leave armor lore at 75, but this changes everything!!! :JC_hurrah:

And interesting theory about the Griffin, I'll go and test it! Thanks for the detailed, noob-friendly answers again!

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