Sacred Underworld - Interesting Items to Disarm

[alfchaval 263]

Recently I have been informed that you can disarm some set items from two dark elves in Zhurag-Nar, and these items are legit set items, not fake set items like the ones in Cave of Heroes.

Also I have found that the probability of disarming with Whirlwind increases with the level of the spell, and a max level Whirlwind can disarm any enemy in 1-2 seconds, so I have been running aroung disarming anything in my way.

I have even found some enemies that I didn't know can be disarmed for unique items.

I'm going to post a list of things you may be want to disarm, tell me if I'm missing something interesting.

Set pieces:

- Bahamut helmet and chest from Shalinor in Zhurag-Nar.

- Khrag helmet and chest from a priestess in Zhurag-Nar.

- X-MAS sword (gladiator) in Garema Forest.

Fake set pieces:

- Multiple pieces in cave of Heroes.

- Fake Feac items in Undead Gladiator.

- Fake Bahamut helmet from Smirnak in The Forgotten Swamps of Azschabrag.

Unique items:

- Elohinir's Shiny Tower Shield can be disarmed in at least three different locations: a sworman in the cave west of Bellevue, two swordmands in the cave of Robert of the Forest, two skelletons in the mines of Kahari.

- Golden Shield of the Gods, from the three Captain of the Ice Elves in Tyr-Haddar.

- Prothal's Protector from a skelleton in the mines of Kahari.

- Suev'Evell's Wooden Buckler can be disarmed in at least two different locations: from a mercenary in the cave east of Bellevue and from a orc ghost at the entrance of a cave east of Wolfdale..

Exclusive models:

- The hammer of Neophystis.

- The medusa staff from Karissall.

- A sword that is grabbed from the tip instead of the handle, in the cave east of Bellevue.

- DO NOT USE, the BeeEffGee model, droped by ice elves priestesses and by one enemy in Cave of Heroes.

Miscellaneous:

- Light sabers and magic whips.

- The weapon of HRunga'zz, although it shares model with Tree Rage.

- Small torch, the skelletons and mummies that start spamming at the third act of the Ancarian campaign use them at night (this is a smaller version of the starting torch).

- Oversized weapons from giants, ogres and shadow guards.

- Armor pieces that no one can use, like goblin armors or ogre armors (why would you want that?).

Edited October 10, 2024 by alfchaval

[SLD 525]

1 hour ago, alfchaval said:

Armor pieces

Wow, I genuinely had no idea that disarming could cause anything to drop other than weapons. Very interesting.
Are these special non weapon drops only happening with the BM spell or also with the normal disarm character skill?

Thanks for the list!

[Dax 555]

Medusa weapon (staff-lore + one handed) is not so bad in vanilla, its stats are getting re-rolled as soon as you start a new game. Also it is quickly to come by.
By farming a little you can get a nice, useful item. Never found one with sockets, though. In Reborn the item is cheap trash, compared to other unique staffs.
 
Forest-Boss weapon (axe-lore + one handed) is a wonderful axe with up to 4 sockets and that's cool. It deals either massive physical, or poison damage and grants an
absolutely insane bonus do magical spell damage. With a little farming, additional spell regeneration is granted, which makes it even more deadly. Remember that
Sera & Demoness are double-wield characters. They can pack two forest-boss weapons simultanously!
The good news are that the stats of the weapon are getting re-rolled every time you enter the forest-boss lair. Just save before you step on the altar and you are
good to go.

[alfchaval 263]

7 hours ago, SLD said:

Are these special non weapon drops only happening with the BM spell or also with the normal disarm character skill?

Now that you ask, maybe, I usually disarm with Whirlwind because the disarm skill is really bad, so I'm not sure if the skill can disarm armor pieces.

What I can confirm is that the only armor pieces that Whirlwind can disarm are helmet and chest.

[alfchaval 263]

I'm finding more disarmable unique items, this one Suev'Evell's Wooden Buckler is dropped by a orc ghost at east of Wolfdale.

I also have 100% split, so double items for me.

[alfchaval 263]

I have updated the first post adding "DO NOT USE", I don't know how I forgot it.

Something that I didn't include in the list because I'm investigating: there is a small chance that ice elves have a Dark Moon as shield.
Most of the time I got a common version with the same model, but I have got 3 Dark Moon from ice elves in three different sesions. Two of them were high level niobium, one of them was low level bronze, I was playing in niobium all the time.

Is there a list of enemies that don't respawn? I should try disarming all these enemies.

[Sethi22 454]

On 9/29/2024 at 4:14 PM, alfchaval said:

I also have 100% split, so double items for me.
 

Wow now wait a second! What? I got distracted for a while and forgot to check back here. Sadly I can't be any help to you this time Alf, as I'm completely unfamiliar with disarming. Never used it. But I will, seeing all these beautiful drops!

But what's this about split and getting double items? There's not a word about this in the wiki, it only states that enemies get duplicated. So how does this thing work? Having more split gives you more chance to get double items from... what? The duplicated enemies? Or from chests and quests too? I feel a complete idiot again, I never knew why I got double from some items, it was my split chance then? OMG! And...and can I get double the amount of runes from quest too? With 100% split?

Edited October 9, 2024 by Sethi22

[SLD 525]

12 hours ago, Sethi22 said:

I feel a complete idiot again,

yes, and this time, rightfully so.
 

12 hours ago, Sethi22 said:

never knew why I got double from some items, it was my split chance then? OMG! And...and can I get double the amount of runes from quest too? With 100% split?

NO!
He splits the enemy and then disarms both. Thats why he gets 2 of everything those enemies got.
You would also get loot from both the original and the split creature afaik. And the xp of course, which is what split is usually used for.
But beyond that split does nothing. It splits enemies not items.

---->
got it?

Edited October 9, 2024 by SLD

[Sethi22 454]

yep! It's easy for you guys, you actually think when playing. But I don't. There was absolutely no thoughtprocess involved so far in this case, in like two decades: Two items that look the same! "Wow what a cool game this is! I got two instead of one!" Or something like that. Maybe not even that. No questions emerged. No connections were drawn... Nothing. I just picked them up and used them or sold one of them... That's why it's so interesting for me to ask questions from you guys! I'm learning. Slowly but steadily...

[SLD 525]

1 hour ago, Sethi22 said:

Two items that look the same!

For normal loot this can potentially happen just by luck. It is also possible that some bug might make the chances of this happening a bit higher. If the split guy drops loot normally however, that should not be the same loot as the "other half" of him drops. Loot should be random as always.
It's just that when you clone a cow with a bardiche you get another cow with a bardiche.
 

1 hour ago, Sethi22 said:

I'm learning. Slowly but steadily...

Ah, the thornbush build. Some day you'll be ready for it

[gogoblender 3,773]

7 minutes ago, SLD said:

 

Ah, the thornbush build. Some day you'll be ready for it

best quote of the day

gogo

[Sethi22 454]

I don't know if giving him this avatar was a good idea, Gogo! He was scary enough without it, with his numbers and calculations and always telling clever things... Now I'm really scared! I don't want to be eaten by an angry, pumpkinheaded cow! 

Edited October 10, 2024 by Sethi22

[gogoblender 3,773]

13 hours ago, Sethi22 said:

I don't know if giving him this avatar was a good idea, Gogo! He was scary enough without it, with his numbers and calculations and always telling clever things... Now I'm really scared! I don't want to be eaten by an angry, pumpkinheaded cow! 

He writes into the long hours of the night for us

during these darkly, ghoulish  times, who else deserves the princely reward of having his head torn off and replaced as tribute to dedicated and beloved members

they say it was painless but...

there are rumours dear readers...

rumors of loooong drawn out screeems...

gogo

[alfchaval 263]

23 hours ago, SLD said:

He splits the enemy and then disarms both. Thats why he gets 2 of everything those enemies got.

Exactly.

Sadly you can't split bosses, but some of these items are used but unique enemies that aren't bosses.

Added "small torch" to the list.

 

[gogoblender 3,773]

On 10/10/2024 at 3:05 PM, alfchaval said:

 

Sadly you can't split bosses, 

 

 

zomgod split...

devastating, devious, and deceitfully delicious and dangerous at the same time...

Ive been on servers where people have *blipped* out then RIP'd a few minutes later on the forums screaming out against all manner of injustices... *secret lol* ... 

with all the different  wep slots, creating a split slot/exp slot is remarkably easy and satisfying ... and while in HC that thought of ..just one more percentage should be juuuuuuuuuuuuuuust right...becomes a little...too...much...

 

gogo

[alfchaval 263]

I was playing around with the weapons I had disarmed and discovered how to reproduce a bug that causes the aura of the magic whips to behave like the aura of the light sabers.

The trick is socketing an item that gives a bonus to a battle mage spell. Why a battle mage spell and not any spell? I don't know,

I have not been exhaustive, but I have tried multiple combat arts from different characters and I have made different characters wield the magic whips, so I may be wrong but until now  it did work.

Here a picture to compare light sabers with bugged magic whips, I like that physical damage light sabers don't have aura, so the bugged magic whip looks turned off.

[emekarmead 48]

Interesting!

Can you disarm Anducar (Demon form) for his sword?

[alfchaval 263]

3 hours ago, emekarmead said:

Interesting!

Can you disarm Anducar (Demon form) for his sword?

Yes, but it's a weapon that no character can use.

You can also get it disarming Giants, Ice Giants, Ogres or Frazzler.

[emekarmead 48]

There is an unique goblin L'Egolars in one of the graves in Tyr-Hadar. I wonder if some unique helm and armor can be disarmed from him.

[Sethi22 454]

17 minutes ago, emekarmead said:

There is an unique goblin L'Egolars in one of the graves in Tyr-Hadar. I wonder if some unique helm and armor can be disarmed from him.

 

Bring Moca, yeah! I've tried your Moca method with disarming, and it worked against the plebs, but not on bosses. Maybe his skill is too low to disarm bosses? Could you disarm bosses with him?

Edited May 11 by Sethi22

[emekarmead 48]

8 minutes ago, Sethi22 said:

Could you disarm bosses with him?

I've disarmed bosses like Medusa and HRunga'zz with Moca, it works, but takes some time.

Problem is: Moca can only disarm shields and weapons and not helmets and armors.

From this L'Egolars moca got some mage staff (not unique).

I have found another NPC that can disarm: it is Falco Scar-Face from Ancarian Snow quest in Braverock castle.

Again, he can only disarm weapons and shields.

[alfchaval 263]

5 hours ago, emekarmead said:

There is an unique goblin L'Egolars in one of the graves in Tyr-Hadar. I wonder if some unique helm and armor can be disarmed from him.

As you can see in your picture, it's technically an undead, not a goblin.

And you can also see it's not wearing any helmet or armor, so you can't disarm these items from it.

Maybe its undead appearance has made you think it's wearing some kind of armor.

You can see more enemies like that in Azschabrag.

5 hours ago, emekarmead said:

From this L'Egolars moca got some mage staff (not unique).

I have found another NPC that can disarm: it is Falco Scar-Face from Ancarian Snow quest in Braverock castle.

It didn't even spawned with a weapon for me.

Check this: https://www.sacredwiki.org/index.php/Sacred:Unique_Enemies