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    svchost.exe

    in Tech Talk

    Posted · Edited by Pitunia

    Command line is superb... I had situations in past when I was forced to repair computer software using only commands :P Probably only people from 70. or 80. know how to do it :) Young persons probably don't know how DOS looks like and how using it ;) BTW... Norton Commander and Midnight Commander rlz :P

     

    PS: That was my boyfriend xD

    SacredWiki Interactive Map of Ancaria

    in Sacred General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Pitunia

    Llama8... But that order is only in Sacred 2. In S1 all tiles are sorted into rhombus and displaying them isn't as easy as it looks. What more... If you want display images you must know what to display and how user can navigate. Because of that Schot choose MapLib. It's good solution but has limitations. If you don't want have them you must know how to use Google Maps API functions. It's Object JavaScript mostly (but you may also use XML, PHP, MySQL). My boyfriend is programmer (MSc of IT) so looks into code, read few manuals and examples and made working one. Later he start writing scripts to handle with images, because, as I wrote earlier, Google Maps use a tons of thumbnails 256x256 and each must be named according to pattern which is used to choosing this, which should be displayed (there is function which we first must write, define and whole displaying is based on it).

    With Sacred 2 it's easy because they are nice named in files (I've described pattern before your post). But making similiar for S1 will be muuuuuuch more complicated. Maybe not impossible, but veeeeeery hard...

     

    If we compare Sacred 2 and S1, work with Sacred 2 tiles was piece of cake ;) Good, that he has experience with map generator (do you like it Schot? ;) ) for S1 because at least he know everything about order in files and may try write some converter between order on google maps and S1 files. We will see how long it take :P Or rather if he will be able to write something that ;) This script for converting images from Sacred 2 has a little more than 100 lines, but 1/3 of them are comments.

    Exactly 79/127 lines are working code. Rest are comments what is what and how works :P

     

    And back to topic... Displaying map on page is hard, because you don't know in fact how big will be output image, depending on scale. Very detailed means huge in size... To compare I say how big is most detailed map in Sacred 2 made from tiles. Map is a square which is made from 128x128 tiles 256x256 big so... 32768x32768 :) Some of them are only blank, but whole size is as you see enormous...

     

    Ok... This is how it works now. 7 levels of zoom (and level 0 as a global) display area 512x512 step by step ;)

    Lvl0 is max zoom out. Google move sphere on something flat so on left and right from original they are "rolled"

     

    lvl0zt9.th.pnglvl1db9.th.pnglvl2fz0.th.png

     

    lvl3bq3.th.pnglvl4hw5.th.pnglvl5ta0.th.png

     

    lvl6mw1.th.pnglvl7gk3.th.png

     

    Look and compare. But remember... Those are png files, because I didn't wanna loose quality. Check, that most of them are 0.5MB files, and because of that I put thumbnails only. If you wanna see how it looks, click on chosen one. They are in scale 1:1 and that is how I see it on my screen.

     

    And as a bonus... First and second level of underground map as a whole:

    ulvl1fd6.th.png ulvl2am5.th.png

    But this time only on lvl1 zoom ;)

    SacredWiki Interactive Map of Ancaria

    in Sacred General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Pitunia

    Smile yourself Schot... Now my boyfriend is testing some scripts he wrote today ;) They cut images extracted from Sacred2 PAK folders, name them and need only script which can display them. And this using Google API is already written :hugs: Now only start script and check if they do work with images correct :) But png isn't good solution for server... Biggest layer (from 7 layers - 7 levels of zoom) have more than 16.000 of 256x256 images :( So on disc all images from all layers in png would take more than 2GB. And number of files reach almost 33000. JPG have worse quality, but on-line page with map from PNG-files could be veeery slow ;)

     

    [EDIT]Everything done without problem :) Scripts works for Sacred 2 and their tiles long but flawless :P After all there is 24416 PNG-files which take 1487,5 MB :P

    JPG with 70% compression level... only 141,7 MB, which could be acceptable I think :P Remember, that at one time, one person download on 512x512 display only 4 images, and when zoom in, zoom out or move... download only uncached tiles. Of course it takes bandwidth, but not as much as downloading single big file :)

    OK... I run script to generate tiles for lvl1 underground :P

    SacredWiki Interactive Map of Ancaria

    in Sacred General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Pitunia

    Ah thank you for that information Pitunia. That will help to get me on the path I'm wanting. I'm going to have a close look at it and learn something new. Please send your boyfriend my thanks. :D

    Now its easier than in UW :D Tiles are in order easier to understand than in S1:

    Tiles are numerated: first 3 digits from left to right, second 3 digits from bottom to top, and 2 letters as a level (layer). You will see it as a

     

    000_063_B0 001_063_B0 (...) 062_063_B0 063_063_B0

    000_062_B0 001_062_B0 (...) 062_062_B0 063_062_B0

    (...........................................................................)

    000_001_B0 001_001_B0 (...) 062_001_B0 063_001_B0

    000_000_B0 001_000_B0 (...) 062_000_B0 063_000_B0

     

    And something similiar with D1(dungeon lvl1) and D2(dungeon lvl2). You probably noticed that already :P It's much easier now to make interactive map. Even very detailed should be easy to do with Google API because normal tile in minimaps is 512x512 so it's exactly 4 tiles 256x256 (and that size is needed by GAPI)

    SacredWiki Interactive Map of Ancaria

    in Sacred General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Pitunia

    Oh Pitunia. I'm so sorry that I missed your post here. :D That would be excellent if you could send me a sample of the script you are talking about. I've been curious to run a script like that for darkmatters and sacredwiki. Yes please! If you have the time I would love to see it. :)
    Would you like to have tis php file for Sacred: UW or Sacred2? Just moment ago my boyfriend finished script for generating minimap for Sacred2 world. It's memory consuming and many times browsers stop responding when it is loading data on screen. So using it is best after starting system, when memory is fully free. But it works for sure. You switch between surface and both levels of undergrounds with select and with checkbox you mark which should be generated. Something similiar is with Sacred UW. But it has no undergrounds so after loading fully to browser you may check what you want and generating :)

     

    [EDIT]: I've sended you information on PM Schot :) Script are without comments inside but I think you will understand it :) Oh... One more :) It need Apache with PHP and GD2 library installed. This library is usually installed by default with PHP so you shouldn't have any problems. Check and try it. On slower computers however it may take time fully load in browser. Sacred UW script load more than 6000 thumbnails 64x64, and Sacred2 script at start load surface so about 3000 thumbnails 64x64 :D Be patient :P And as I wrote in PM... Those scripts are so memory-consuming that they are only for works on localhost :)

    Sacred 2 Map -- Satelite View

    in Sacred 2 General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Pitunia

    So I add also my opinion in copyright discussion. Copyright in many countries are different. They aren't unified. What is legally protected in USA in my country for examples, don't have to be. Everything is cover by each country "Copyright Protection Act" and here lies a problem. What is in one country legal in second don't have to be. As a second example well known copyright sign in my country has no power. In my country everything must be verified by some national agency earlier to compare if someone has no rigth to something similiar. There is one exception - something with International Protection Rights. For example rights to Sacred2 has Ascaron, but in my country, polish distributor - Cenega. Much worse is with intelectual rights. We have Legal Act but it's so unclear, that in many situation many depends from situation, context, interpretation :/ If I wanted, I could add to my code for example that it is on LGPL licence, CreativeCommons or whatever I could choose from many of them.

     

    But in case of map for me there is a subtle difference. All of us are clients of Ascaron because we bought game and EULA (End User License Agreement) is binding us. According to it we are unable to do nothing with game: modding, extracting data... simply - we can only play. Anything else is breaking EULA :> Those rights was made to protect producer from persons who modified game in way which it may be dangerous for third persons (trojans, viruses, malware attached to modification) and to protect them from using their work under other name.

     

    Our scripts are only GUI (Graphical User Interface) which use data for which rights have Ascaron. We may be only authors for that scripts. Unless we don't add extracted data to it - we are fully legal. I may tell you what to do, but cannot give data here, because simply I don't have rights to them. I use this data on my own way but only on my own computer and don't leak on another. If I add, for example only, few images for someone to check how this script works it would be breaching of rights. But as I said... I'm still owner of that script because I don't use software of third person at this moment. If someone will use it... do it on it's own, if only have missing data for which I don't have rights. The same is with plugins. Someone who write them have rights to them but cannot include to it code or compiled version of software which use this plugin. It may be even sold... But seperately, not budled. Only exception is when legal ownership agree on that. Without his permission it is illegal.

     

    There is another aspect of this. EULA is too fast. We are forced to accept it without knowing what is included in precompiled exe/jar/script. We of course have right to uninstall it when it don't meet our expectations, but for example DRM aren't treating us as a legal owner. They cross invisible line treating us like a potential pirat user sometimes blocking software which is legally on our machine. It is far from being fair...

    Sacred 2 Map -- Satelite View

    in Sacred 2 General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Pitunia

    OK... Now my turn ;)

    At start I explain a little. I used extracted and converted images from archives. It's faster than reaching each time to archive. I use folders and files structurized. Before I start explaning I write as a code structure on my server :P I add also info how to extract and what to do before we start browser.

     

    Map of Sacred2

    First we need to extract data from /pak/minimaps.zip and only files with names starting with sat. Those starting with grnd are only with blurry grounds. Then we need one additional software: DDS Converter, because extracted files are dds files which are unreadable to browsers and most of image browsers. This tool can convert dds to jpg or png. Then move to folder (or folders). My structure on server is:

    minimapB0/
minimapD1/
minimapD2/
index-mini.php

    I put here code in PHP. And after I tell what is in :)

     

     

    <html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<title>Map of Sacred2: Fallen Angel - whole minimap</title>
<style>
body{
background-color: black;
}
img{
outline: solid 1px red;
position:absolute;
}
select {
position:fixed;
}
p {
color: red;
font: bold larger Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<form method='post' action='index-mini.php'>
<?php
$wysokosc = "B0";
if ( isset( $_POST['layer'] ) ) {
switch ( $_POST['layer'] ) {
case "D2":
	$wysokosc="D2";
	break;
case "D1":
	$wysokosc="D1";
	break;
default:
	$wysokosc="B0";
			break;
}
}
$sciezka='minimap'.$wysokosc.'/';
for ($I=0; $I < 64; $I++){
for ($j=0; $j < 64; $j++){
	$filename = sprintf("sat%03d_%03d_%02s.png", $I, $j, $wysokosc);
	$name = sprintf("%03d_%03d", $I, $j);
	if (file_exists($sciezka.$filename)){
		$l=$I*512;
		$t=(63-$j)*512;
		echo "<img src='".$sciezka.$filename."' style='position:absolute; left:".$l."px; top:".$t."px'>\n";
		echo "<input type='checkbox' name='".$name."' style='position:absolute; left:".$l."px; top:".$t."px'>\n";
		echo "<p style='position:absolute; left:".$l."px; top:".$t."px'>".$name."</p>";
	  }
};
};
?>
<select id='layer' name='layer' onchange="submit()">
<option value="B0">Choose layer</option>
<option value="B0">Surface</option>
<option value="D1">Underground lvl1</option>
<option value="D2">Underground lvl2</option>
</select>
</form>enations:
</body>
</html>

     

    And now explain...

    action='index-mini.php'

    As a action put here name of that file. He is requesting itselt info about which layer we choose

     

    $sciezka='minimap'.$wysokosc.'/';

    Here are paths to images. I use different folders for each layer. So I have 3 folders: minimapB0, minimapD1, minimapD2. If you put all of them in one folder change that code to:

    $sciezka='your_name/';

     

    for ($I=0; $I < 64; $I++){
for ($j=0; $j < 64; $j++){

    This is how big part of map will be displayed. 64x64 is whole map. If your computer have less memory change values here to different range from 0 to 64. Remember: there are sometimes errors in files and some tiles are looking like they don't match it's place or have corrupted colors. Try convert them from original DDS file once more. If that don't change anything - it means that is error of original image. This code only display right image in right place. Nothing more. At least now :4rofl:

     

    $filename = sprintf("sat%03d_%03d_%02s.png", $I, $j, $wysokosc);

    If you saved files not as PNG but JPG - change that extension. Remember: Browsers accept only few extension as a images: JPG, PNG, BMP, GIF. Use only one of them.

     

    $l=$I*512;
$t=(63-$j)*512;

    Tiles have width and height 512 pixels so we multiply by 512. If you have different size - change it.

    Attention! If you have changed values in part above (in for loops) here you must change also code a little. I gave example how it should look.

    for ($I=5; $I < 18; $I++){
for ($j=8; $j < 22; $j++){
	$filename = sprintf("sat%03d_%03d_%02s.png", $I, $j, $wysokosc);
	$name = sprintf("%03d_%03d", $I, $j);
	if (file_exists($sciezka.$filename)){
		$l=($I-5)*512;
		$t=(21-$j)*512;

     

    echo "<input type='checkbox' name='".$name."' style='position:absolute; left:".$l."px; top:".$t."px'>\n";
echo "<p style='position:absolute; left:".$l."px; top:".$t."px'>".$name."</p>";

    First whole line can be erased. I will use it in near future, when I change this code to code which generate images from chosen tiles. Second line add name of image on it. It makes looking for chosen files easier :)

     

    I have some similiar code but for Sacred: Underworld. That second is not from original size tiles. It display 64x64 thumbnails and is full working generator. It is ancestor of this one which, code is above. But it's limited by our system memory. When we choose to much, system is unable to allocate enough memory and script crush. If you are interested I may post and explain it here.

    Sacred 2 Map -- Satelite View

    in Sacred 2 General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Pitunia

    Yes... But it's only surface view as you already mentioned. I played also with unpacked files and there are also two levels of dungeons. In fact there is more than only one map of world. One is "fairy" (as we see under M key), second is as your linked thumbnail. But there is much detailed version combined from minimap parts(as we see when Tab is pressed). I have script which can display them in browser, but it is php script so need server on localhost who have php-interpreter. It should be simple to convert it to JavaScript what could be a good solution. Problem for people could be with files. Originally in zips are DDS (Direct Draw Surface) files which have to be converted into "readable" for browsers JPG or PNG. I have script which display whole map of Ancaria in Sacred: Underworld and it was memory consuming. After load it could use approx. 1,5GB of memory. And it was "only" more than 6000 thumbnails 64x64 pixels. Loading of original 256x256 takes few minutes. I even cannot imagine how long it could take in Sacred2. Probably you may go to kitchen and make a coffe or two before map fully load :music:

    Sacred Wiki's Dark Treasure Hunt for Uniques in Sacred 2!

    in Sacred 2 General Discussion

    Posted

    And here my turn...

    desertsaberkp4.png

    dragonslayeryu5.png

    dwendoriksvanquisherzx5.png

    executionersaxeej0.png

    fipsnecklacehy8.png

    miaremstotemos0.png

    trychelionspoleaf5.png

    worardspearlac3.png

    ysandrifaslawzp9.png

    ysekiasringup7.png

    zepetlsshortswordar4.png

     

    I'm not sure for that. Are they or not? Probably not but for sure I put them here :)

    impalerofheroesxa7.png

    ringsw8.png

    spauldersqz3.png

     

    One more, but I cannon unsocket Blacksmith rune from some reason :/ When is more than one socket and is socketed fang, orb or somethig unsocketing is easy. But in that case I cannot remove blacksmith rune :music: So I put over name what this rune add. That should be distracted from description. And of course armor should be recalculated.

    stalworthsafeguardfi3.png

    Sacred 2 Combat Art Modifications Revealed

    in Sacred 2 General Discussion

    Posted

    About cooldown. It's as Llama8 said. It's additional time before spell start it's regeneration. It's very good to see on Shadow Warrior and one of his CA - Skeleton Tower. Why? Because one of upgrade to this CA give reduction of cooldown. At start cooldown is 20 seconds, but after reduction it's lowered to 6,7s (so approfimately reduction is to 1/3 of normal time for cooldown). That CA will be ideal for testing relations between CA and his upgrades :(

    Easter Eggs by Pitunia :)

    in Sacred 2 General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Pitunia

    As I promised... Detailed info :( I didn't put all of them, because Patroclo was faster :)

    Cave with button:

    button1je8.th.jpg

    Where is it on map? Here:

    button2iu2.th.jpg

    And here map to "Something beautifull" with route:

    button3ii3.th.jpg

     

    If you like Quentin Tarantino... There is quest in East Turbak (small village in west part of desert, near see) it take you to bar, but their clients start talking with you how good you are... In taste context ;) And after few dialogs they become Werewolves and attack you. If you take closer look that bar is top of Aztec temple. From one angle it looks exactly the same like last scene in "From Dusk Till Dawn"

    tillmf7.th.jpg

    East Turbak is second village from see :) First is Turbak

    Look and say it isn't last scene, when camera is zooming out :o

    dusttb5.th.jpg

     

    But is more :P

    In Sacred when you were going from Belleuve to Silver Creek near bridge was Seargent Flavius... And in Sacred2 he is again :P When you are going out from first village near starting location :)

    flaviuseo5.th.jpg

     

     

    And two more but I cannot repeat first now...

    First is when you are doing class campaign from Temple Guardian. You will meet Alibaba and 40 ruffians xD Your task is kill'em all :P This task was on Desert or at the beginning of Jungle :)

     

    Second is cave with big chess board a little on west from Tarak on Orc Territory :)

     

    Ohh... And found one dragon on Swamps which I didn't found on french map :)

    dragonym0.th.jpg

    You should start almost at right-bottom corner of swamps, because there start path which climb and meander at top of cliff. Look at screen and you will see this path below screen of dragon. There is plenty of easters which I found, but maybe I don't know about that.

    For example dancing Wind Serpent :P

    It's very short quest :) He is standing here:

    serpentfm1.th.jpg

    Only way to get there is use miniportal on coast where T-energy lakes are. You may get there when you go for quest with Ascaron members for example :) That Serpent will talk to your char how sad he is and want show something to you. After accepting he start shaking and moving wings. After short time it ends and you get experience and money :P At first moment I was thinking that quest is corrupt, because I didn't look closer. It ends after, I think, 20 seconds, so it may look like nothing is happening :) Wait there and it ends after that time and you get a reward :)

    Easter Eggs by Pitunia :)

    in Sacred 2 General Discussion

    Posted

    I put this topic on public and popular forum so It's rather obvious that is done for wide community than only for few people. Sacred wiki is bigger project and it is based on shared information. I want put also small part to that :cow_white: You may cut, paste and whatever you want. Some screens I must check, because was done more than few days ago. And I was uncovering every cave on map :] I check where it was exactly and add that info here... Maybe even with exact map location of them :)

    Easter Eggs by Pitunia :)

    in Sacred 2 General Discussion

    Posted

    Alien

    alienxn9.th.jpg

     

    Police-style Deadman

    deadmanbw8.th.jpgdeadman2nb3.th.jpg

     

    Room with machines :cow_white:

    lollq4.th.jpglol2vb0.th.jpglol3my8.th.jpg

     

    Giver of secret quest with collectin Ascaron Members

    secretee9.th.jpg

     

    And there is a cave with huge chessboard in Orc Region, where monsters are instead of chess figurine. With that is connected quest. When we click "bad move" apear ghosts :) But unfortunatelly I don'thave screen of that :/

    Vitruvian Monster - My first Sacred 2 Easter Egg!

    in Sacred 2 General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Pitunia

    Here I have screen with quest giver - Heiko tom Felde :cow_white:

    And this is screen in 800x500 (I play on laptop, so panoramic view)

    secretee9.th.jpg

     

    It's in polish but in english translation it would be something like:

    "Greetings!

     

    Journey for sure was exhausting. But you cannot rest yet, because I have quest for you. Works for Sacred3 should be already started, but unfortunatelly all members are on holidays. Please, if you only meet them - tell them to go back."

     

    I'm very carefulll... So I know that even map of dragons isn't full... I've found one more in swamp region, which isn't on map here :)

    Vitruvian Monster - My first Sacred 2 Easter Egg!

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    Posted · Edited by Pitunia

    even carolyn hacker is featured :)

     

    carolyn.jpg

    It's not an Easter Egg with Carolyn... Today night I discover that all Ascaron crew are connected with a secret easter egg quest! When I travelled in the jungle region I found cave in which was a switch on the podium. When I push it apear dialog box which I can translate on english as a: "Something beautifull has been opened." And in that moment I understand what happend. Two days ago I was playing on desert... Over that region is region with T-Energy lakes. At very top are waterfalls and there is skullcave but always closed. It's called "Something Beautifull"! That switch opened it! I went there and inside is a secret quest! When I take it, guy start dialog in which he said, that Sacred3 is already started and I must inform every person from Ascaron crew which I meet during my journey that he should go back to work :cow_white: I don't know what happens when we collect all of them but in main menu are movies and one of them is called "Authors"... Maybe that quest unlock this movie?

    SacredWiki Interactive Map of Ancaria

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    Posted · Edited by Pitunia

    Hi... Did you think about update of this map with undergrounds, caves? My boyfriend about year ago had written in php map generator for S1/UW (now is working for same tool for Sacred 2) which use extracted minimap textures from texture.pak but that script is memory consuming and is limited by system so it cannot generate whole map at once because system cannot allocate that much memory for browser to finish script properly. I use it many times to generate smaller parts of minimap and it works. Browsers use after fully loaded more than 1GB because at start it loads more that 6.000 thumbnails 64x64 which cover all worls with caves. On that map are also caves, and that is what is missed on that map and can be added. But there is bug of minimap... Cave of Flame have invalid minimap screens, half of it is black :/ Other are in full minimap quality, because to render minimap script use images converted from original tga to png which is lossless format :thumbsup: If you like I can send that scripts with Readme or comments in php files about variables to explain what is needed for it and how it works.

     

    Thomas, my boyfriend during last days has been working on something similiar. Extract images from textures.pak and using GM API convert them to GMaps standard :woot: With 8 level of zoom in JPG 84MB, in more than 25.000 images. Now only markers to do...

    [Polish] Ancarians - Sacred Fan site

    in Sacred General Discussion

    Posted

    30moe4wmu1.png

    New polish fan-site about Sacred and Sacred2.

    Main target is gather as much information (in polish) as possible in one place for polish players about games (and not only) in Sacred dualogy.

    Now focus is on Sacred2, but Sacred+ and Sacred: Underworld are also on our minds.

    Sacred Underworld:

    - Characters Overview,

    - CA, skills, attributes,

    - regions overview,

    - in Articles -> builds.

     

    Sacred 2:

    - Most of information about characters,

    - CA, skills, attributes, gods, god skills,

    - overwiev about game.

     

    Under construction is more parts (not visible on site yet, but almost ready to publication) and will be accessible soon. This site is user-oriented so they can add news or write articles if they like to participate in life of our site.

    For sure we add detailed info about quests, EasterEggs (we found in Sacred 2 at least 3 at this moment, excluding those like graves), Boss locations and many more... Information on main page are updated fast (we translate them from many polish, english and german sources). In Sacred2 we play at this moment so information is from first hand - active players.

     

    Site is young but our administrators are experienced (play from 1.66PL build) and helpfull...

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