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Yes, there definitely are such a lizards. Where is my head today (And what am I using for thinking)? But they are a cult not a clan. As I remember they are the lizards who are against the whole clan tradition. And they don't get much attention (at least in Light Campaign). Just a couple of side quests. In other words I'm not sure they are the first thing to remember about swamps.
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Speaking of which, how do swamps get the name 'Home To The Nameless'? I feel like I've missed something. What are those Nameless mentioned in the name. And if those are the Nameless Guardians, then what their connection to the swamp is?
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Well... Actually, Gogo had asked me to write up the wastelands. not so long ago. Not that there's much to write up in the official tome. There's a couple of portals, a couple of of ruined fortresses... Not much to go on. I kinda put it off - at least until I got finished with my little project. Had to come up with something to write that had some entertainment value besides the dull boring - and rather unexplained stuff laying about with seemingly no rhyme or reason.
Sorry for interrupting you, just wanted to say a thing about wastelands. The intro mentions a battle between high elves and temple guardians (and their allies) over T-energy. Having ruined fortresses (supposedly elven ones) and dragon bones (as I remember dragons were pictured fighting together with temple guardians) lying around makes you think that wastelands are exactly where this historically important battle took place. I think it may be a key to writing a story about it.
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That's me again. While browsing unique item section, I noticed the fact that character specific quest uniques (like Atherton's bracers) are not shown in character unique items list (exept for the seraphim and SW) nor in quest unique items list nor even in all uniques list. In fact it took me a while to realise they really are in wiki. Well, I totally remember seing a HE's reward for this quest. But now I can't even find it.
The same goes about Kuan's Pride. Since only the original version is shown in unique one-handed swords list, I first thought that Ice&Blood version is still missing.
I'm not sure whether or not it'd be useful, but I pictured both versions of this sword together.
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And as I said before, your English is very good... Better than you give yourself credit for, perhaps.
One thing I do find intriguing... That pair of bunny ears.. It seems to be a MUCH better quality item than the ones I've seen. The ones I've gotten thus far have all been gray or white - really nothing to write home about and yet, yours appears to be yellow! What level are you playing at?
Thank you very much! I'm happy to hear that my english is fine. That was a really long time since I wrote something in english, so I was really worried.
About this ears... Well it was nothing special. I got them when I was playing 2.43 on silver, hardcore. As you probably can see the item level is only 60, the same that my character was back then. That was more than a year ago. I just found that item unusual and decided to keep it. Today I looked through all the items I have trying to find out whether or not I have something worth mentioning in wiki. So I discovered those ears and decided to ask about them.
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My 2 cents worth - the "city" of Ceria Delith is far too small for a proper city - especially one that was supposed to be the ancient capital of the Elven civilization. Look at the size of Thylysium. It's HUGE comparatively speaking. My feeling is the entire jungle region WAS the city of Ceria Delith and the jungle took over once the city got wiped out in the Great War.
The idea about its supposed size is undoubtedly true. It was said to be a great civilisation after all. But when I was playing this part of the game, I had a feeling that this city continues into some unreacheable areas in the bottom part of the map. And that those parts of jungle you can explore before you cross the river were some kind of city outskirts. But that idea is nothing more than my humble opinion.
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Unfortunately we really need the stats image in English....I was thinking more of the pics of the characters wearing the ears. It's too bad you don't have the English version (your English is excellent btw)
Well, I'll try to get more ears and picture them. I think I'd just collect them and link you to the chest-file. And I really want to write some stuff for the wiki. A quest descriptions and other things. But I don't even know how those quests are nemed in english version. But at the same time the fact I have the russian version moves me to translate CM and to fix the existing translation (I have to say it is not good).
I'm not sure whether or not russian part of the wiki is needed. In fact many russian fan-sites have their own databases and can provide fans with some information. And to tell you the truth I can't say there is a real community of russian Sacred fans. By now Closed Net servers have almost died out. So I can't say whether or not russian gamers are interested in Sacred Wiki. I'm pretty sure some of them are, but such fans are not numerous.
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Then, maybe something like 'The Forgotten Land' or 'The Ancient Ruins' since everywhere you go you encounter the remains of an elven civilisation. It also may be named 'The Wild Land' since the only inhabitants are wild animals and savage haremas.
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I'm not sure how the language would affect the upload but you could always upload to photobucket or something and then I could then upload to the wiki and post on the page. Then you could add whatever description/text you want. Or I could give you a quick tutorial on how to upload pics to the wiki.
I'm pretty sure the language won't affect the upload. It would affect she screenshot itself. I wonder if it would be appropriate to upload something like this to wiki.
That picture is just a sample. If you concider it OK, I'd make one with cleaner background. I can write down the bonuslist in english, but I'm not able to make an english screenshot.
As for the 'something wonderful', that's what is written on the office door when it's closed. And that is a message you get when it opens. Nothing more. This phrase isn't even mentioned is your quest log. I wonder why some people call the quest this. But that's not an official name anyway. Probably you should mention that message, so that searching wiki for 'something wonderful' would still get a result. But the quest itself is now properly named 'Epic Office'.
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As I remember, this region was mentioned only as 'jungle surrounding the ruins of an ancient elven civilisation'. And this region is an unexplored one. The only expedition you encounter got stuck at the very beginning and treasure hunters don't bother themselves naming things. So it can be named just 'the Jungle', to show that there is not many known facts about it. But Na'Fian definitely shound be named. Is it possible write its name separately (exactly where it is)? If not then "Jungle Region and Na'Fian" seems to be quite a good idea.
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7.) Sereish or Seraish - is a word meaning having to do with the Seraphim - such as Elvish would mean belonging to the elves or Polish has to do with the people/customs/whatnot of Poland.
There are actually TWO sets in Sacred 1/Underworld by that name - Lightning of the Sereish and Thunder of the Sereish.
There's also a set in Sacred 2 called the Origin of the Seraish.
Interesting. It really seems to be a right idea. Bur if it is meant to be the same word how it happened to be two of them? And I actually never thought of it that way. Probably because russian publishers left this word untranslated, so it sounded like a name, not like an adjective. And I must admit that it was a long time since I played Sacred 1. Though I completed this game many times and still love it, there are things I start to forget. Sorry if it annoys you.
And I know orcs have amulets. I just can't imagine them being officially medalled for their great deeds. They probably have different way to award their heroes. Probably a more practical one.
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Hmm.. That is a rather odd oversight on whoever wrote up the quest. Then again, the bunny ears don't show up anywhere on the wiki either - probably because they're not a Unique or Legendary item. They're just ordinary armor.
I'm sure no one has done a full on photo shoot for the ears mainly because it's only a set of Playboy Bunny ears - not a full set of armor as with the Christmas Island quest. But I think we need to fix that oversight... I've added mention of the ears to the quest reward on the wiki page for the 2nd part of the quest. If you'd like you can create a page and put up the info for it. Be sure to get a screenshot of the item in your inventory AND with it's statistics.
Well, I considered this fact a developers' joke, something like sunglasses you can receive in Sacred Underworld for completing a holiday quest. I just thought that if they bothered themselves implementing a newly looking item specially for this quest, we should bother ourselves mentioning it. As for the info, I've got two questions.
1. As the ears are not unique(golden) but rare(yellow) item we can't be completely sure that bonus is always the same. But I think that helmet may be something like the bracers you get for 'The Spirit of Atherton'. It's just not concidered unique. Though I never understood why those bracers do.
2. The main trouble here is that I'm russian. Since I sincerely doubt everyone can read our *sigh* great and mighty language, I'm not sure how I can add a screenshot. If placing a screenshot and writing down a description next to it would count, then I'd definitely do it.
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That is because you probably use the east-european lobby for connection to closed net. You can change it to the european one with a optionsCustom.txt entry, but then you have to create a new account there of course. You can play with all the dudes from this forum there then.
Than you very much. That seems to be a good thing to do. Especially if you remember that russian servers are still running at 2.64. European ones must be at 2.65.2. I just hope I could create a new account with the same licence codes. Or probably it is the way to deactivate my old account. I should try it anyway.
Well, the DOWNLOAD link on the page above does not work, it says "Object not found".
Yes, the download link in the wiki seems to be mistyped. It should be '0100' not just '100'.
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Interesting pics.
Just wanted to say that the helmet for this seraphim's set should look like this
It really looks fitting. And it definitely is a new item (I never saw such a thing before Ice&Blood). The one on the picture looks like black-coloured part of Niokaste's set.
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Sorry for interrupting your conversation. I just got one idea about what else could be added to wiki.
Browsing the wiki I got surprised with the fact that all Christmas sets are listed properly, yet the Easter Cult quest doesn't mention the fact that your character can get himself/herself nice ears like this.
How about taking pictures of all characters in easter attire? That would make a nice addition to the quest description.
By the way, is idea about translating wiki still alive?
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What an interesting discussion is going on here! Seriously, I always enjoy searching for connections between various things in games. Looks like I can share some of my observations. Quite an obvious ones for now though...
1. There must be a connection between the chain-quest The Legend of Gronkor and the unique polearm Gronkor's Downfall. The fun fact is (if I'm not mistaken) that orcish hero Gronkor is said to be killed with elven arrow and this polearm is an arrow-shaped spear. Quite a big arrows those elves have...
Gronkor's Medal goes there too. I can't imagine an orkish medal though.
2. I wonder if seraphim's set Sofia's Benevolence is named after seraphims' leader Sophia, the oldest seraphim. In some languages those names are definitely spelled the same way.
3. The ring Kybele's Tear obviosly refers to the goddess, but also to the myth of her. If you read the book about Kybele, you'd find out that it were her tears that brought life to the sadly lifeless world.
4. The reason behind Nyarlathotep's Creeping Madness is obviously H. P. Lovecraft (Nyarlathotep in wiki). By the way, I always was interested why many computer games have something to do with Lovecraft. But that's another question.
5. I wonder if Arni's Ring has something to do with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Probaly not.
6.Jodah's Ornament supposedly is a reference to Jodah from Magic: The Gathering franchise who was a powerful mage. He also had a magical mirror. These facts seem fitting to the bonuslist of this amulet. The funny fact here is that in russian version this amulet is named 'Амулет Йоды'( 'Yoda's Ornament') which adds to the list of Star Wars references in Sacred.
7. Amulet of the Sereish. If I'm not mistaken, there was a Sereish's set in Sacred Underworld.
Well, these ones are the first to come to my mind. When I remember more I'd add description here. If you aren't tired of me yet.
By the way, did you notice that Gods' names are also a reference. I remember that Kybele is a real Phrygian deity. There was something about others too, but I can't remember it now. Maybe later.
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Yes, I've finally found the dead thread about gods. Though I still think those facts should be added to wiki. At least to prevent newbies like me from talking about it again. I'm pretty sure that the reason behind Kybele and Lumen was really found.
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The versions 2.65.1 and 2.65.2 are both able to connect to an 2.65.1 Closed Net server. Seems to me like your russian servers are still running on 2.64.
Yes. That's exactly how it is. I remember myself writing about it some posts ago. Though it doesn't really matter. Russian closed net servers are almost empty anyway. It won't bother me to move to the open net.
By the way, are closed net servers in the other countries still up and running? I hope so. They are invisible in russian version for some unknown reason. I tried various filters but server list is either empty or lists only russian ones.
Sorry for going off topic.
The actual reason behind this post is that I wanted to ask you whether or not you encountered one problem. Minimap settings (at least its size) are reset to default when you quit to the main menu. In 2.43 all settings vere reset. In 2.65.2 with community patch the scale seems to be saved, yet its size still resets every time you enter the game. That fact is definitely true to the russian version since all the people I know encountered this problem. I'm not sure about other versions though. It is proven that due to the bad localisation russian version has more bugs than all the others. Well, russian version was issued long before the european one. In fact our publishers translated a half-baked version. It still echoes sometimes.
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Remember: The last version is 2.65.2, not 2.65.1!
I would be happy if somebody reminded it to russian publishers... As I mentioned before, they are VERY lasy creatures. They never adapted 2.65.2 to russian version. And european version patch can't be installed. It claims to be incompatible. I wonder what changes were in 2.65.2 and if they could somehow made their way to russian version without our publishers.
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After searching the web for some time, I finally found the 2.65.2 patch compatible with russian version. It was released without our publishers, but I hope its content is official. Hope it would work fine.
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This behaviour was changed inside the binaries. There's few we can do about these.
OK. That was just a suggestion. Probably it won't hurt to make a comment about it in the patch changes list. But it's fine anyway.
So don't use one char with a patched and an unpatched game. The original developers prevented people from doing so by increasing the build and patch number, so you got an "incompatible savegame" if you tried to play your char with an older version.
Thank you for explaining. It's a bit sad that I couldn't continue playing old charas without getting oddities. But I've already did such a restart when 2.34 was released. So it's not so bad. Thank you for fixing this quest for at least new charas. The only question is how to talk my open-net partners into restart. But that's my problem, not yours.
In the actual version this quest will lead you to one robbery to the other, so all attacks should be triggered.
That totally wasn't so before addon. So I didn't even suppose such an oddity. Thank you for working on it. Wish I could help you someway.
This time the line "Mawino Barimak" came from the original russian global.res. For some reason it wasn't translated there.
That's quite common. Russian version has a lot of bugs with translation. That's not the only untranslated line I saw. I just don't remember what the others was. When nothing could be done with bugs I didn't bother myself with remembering them. Hope minor translation fixes can be done.
No. And on the other hand you'll get technical issues with 2.64.0 if you use Windows 7.
Just wanted to export my closed-net characters. And I can't create a closed-net game with 2.65.1. The server doesn't accept it. That's definitely not your problem though.
And MERRY CHRISTMAS to all of you! I'm not sure when I should say it. GMT+5 has its issues. But better in a wrong time than never.
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Sorry for being such an annoying self-proclaimed beta-tester again. Just wanted to show you some things.
First of all, I got a lightsaber that made me laugh. Here it is
In other words its bonus list is:
Regeneration Time: Malevolent Champion -xx%
Chance to disregard armor +x%
Aspect: Capricious Hunter +x
Gruesome Inquisition Focus +x
And the character who was rewarded with that item is High Elf. Am I the only one who found it ridiculous? Allmighty random number generator is allmighty! But seriously, looks like lightsabers encounter the same problem that appeared before with seraphim's shields. Maybe random bonus should be made a bit less random.
And two little things about texts.
Wasn't it supposed to be 'As if these few guards could stop me!'? Or is my imperfect english failing me?
And one about russian version.
For some reason the title of this quest ('Mawino Barimak') is in english. Just naming it 'Мавино Баримак' would fix the problem.
I'm really sorry for my endless posts. Don't kill me, please... But looks like you (patch-developers) are our (players) only hope to get this game to work properly.
By the way, does anyone know the way to return to 2.64 from 2.65.1 other then reinstalling? Those lasy creatures still haven't applied 2.65.1 to russian closed net servers. I suppose they never would.
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Beware of the long reply!
Well, I understood about decision markers. Actually I supposed something like that but still wanted to note you. Especially because they appear only after installing community patch. They are hidden in original 2.65.1. And I supposed that they may unpleasantly surprise some people who suddenly see them. There is no common explanation for this rings in game, so their appearance may lead to misunderstanding. After all you can't explain this fact to every player personally, like you did to me.
But there are really some issues with quests besides that. And sadly one of them is a bug of the community patch. That is the one about the 'Bandits' ('Разбойники') quest. After patch installation this quest is marked as successfully completed to all characters that never tried to take this quest.
For example
and map is explored only so far 
I hope it's clear that the character never was in the area.
I tried this character before installing the patch and his quest log was normal. After patch installation this record appeared.
By the way, that quest was bugged in the original 2.65.1 too but in different way. Strangely in 2.43 it was completely OK. But anyway in 2.65.1 there are 2 entries in the quest log. One called 'Разбойники' and the other one called 'Бандиты' (yes, this is exactly the word that means 'Bandits' in russian). The second one is marked failed and its text is empty. It also shows your current location as the map fragment.
Like this
I suppose it's the entry for the second solution of this quest (kill bandits). But why did it appear all of sudden?
And the second noticed bugged quest (in both original and community-patched versions) is already mentioned 'Plentiful Harvest' ('Обильный урожай'). The trouble is that if you didn't kill the robbers this quest would be considered failed even if the trader is alive and happy. By the way this thing was also normal in 2.43 when I tried it last time.
And the quest log is just strange
I doubt you can understand it, but though the quest is failed its text on the right page says it was completed successfully.
Actually I always completed this quest without fighting robbers. Just because I immediately decided that a small passage behind the Inquisition Temple would be much faster and safer way to lead the trader to the city.
Terribly sorry for the long comment. I'm still not sure where I should report such things.
P.S. Just wanted to say that if you provide me with texts to translate, I would complete it before the new year starts. I think I would be offline right after the New Year Day. So if you need this translation in January, I'd better do it now.
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Spent some more time finding features and bugs in community patch. Sadly, I found some bugs with quests. One of them would be reported to the bugtracker. Sorry for reporting the other one there, but I need your help to report it properly. It is about a quest that could be found on the bridge near the Blessed Rock Manor.
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It's the one where some outlaws try to intimidate you into giving them money by saying the most typical your-money-or-your-life sentences. It's called 'Robbers' in russian version. Sadly, I couldn't find it in the wiki so I don't know its proper name.
The trouble is that this quest is marked finished in the quest log when the character never took it nor even entered this region. In fact it's just a new character I recently started playing with. A multiplayer one if that matters.
There is also another strange thing with that chara. When I opened the world map I saw some quests marked as failed, when I never fail any quest. Quest log shows all quests as sucessfully completed. But it seems like the map doesn't want to agree.
It repeated with another charas no matter whether they were created for single or multiplayer.
Reported this one to the bugtracker. Sorry for reporting there, but I decided to complete this report since I started it.
I'm not sure wheter or not it is connected, but the typical multiplayer quest-hint that was telling you to enter the world of Ancaria is no longer displayed in the quest log. May it be that another quest somehow got its identifier?
I can't say this things matter a lot for me personally, but I really want to apply community patch to the open-net game I host for my friends. Unlike me they are still new for this game. I really don't want them to be unpleasantly surprised.
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And last, but not least, the following lines for the christmas and easter quests have to be completed/extended:
Logbook lines after you talked to the easter bunny
1559058121 The easter bunny told me he has hidden something for me! ...
Logbook lines if you pick up the first egg before talking to the easter bunny
1570601877 I have missed the easter bunny. What a pity.
Logbook lines after you've talked to this little fellow in thylysium about christmas
2392250756 Something is wrong with Christmas. ...
CU Marcus
I'm not sure whether or not you are still open for suggestions, but anyway... Maybe you should add a little description of what the character should do next. Something along the lines of "The easter bunny told me he has hidden something for me! Maybe I should take a look at the Temple." or "Something is wrong with Christmas. Maybe visiting that island would fix it. I should talk to the captain".
That's definitely not the best way to put it. Maybe you would come up with better lines. But the point is to do some reminder. Just in case a player forgot the dialog and quest marker shows no step further.
Had this idea after trying to start the Christmas Quest with different charas. The result was always the same. When I complete the pre-quest called "Christmas delayed" there is no active quest after that. There is no quest marker as well. If I haven't read wiki before trying it, I won't understand that I should talk to the captain next. At least russian text for this quest doesn't say it clear.
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Just wanted to thank you for all the interesting things you are doing. Tried the patch on my version. Unlike one of the previos commenters I had no problems with it. All the features I checked so far worked perfectly. The only thing that looked strange is that the Captain in Thylysium was an elf again. Wasn't he supposed to be a kobold?
The only thing I don't understand so far is that whether or not russian translation is available. I would be happy to help you with translation if needed. Just tell me and it'd be finished soon. Unlike my english, my russian is quite good. I downloaded text archives and was surprised to see half the lines translated while others being in english.
P.S. Sorry for my crappy english. I'm good with reading english texts but sadly not with writing. Feel free to correct me.
Jungle Region Name
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I was pretty sure it is so. My point here was just stating the fact that all the players would remember lizardmen, most of them would probably recall that lizards' traditions have a lot to do with names and families, yet only a part of them would definitely recall the Nameless Cult. So probably we should try to come up with more general description.