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True-Fighter Series Quest...and another query


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Hello again, folks. Two questions this time, if I may. (You guys must be very, *very* close to out of patience with me by now; I do recognize that I've been asking a lot, and I really am grateful for your good nature.)

 

I've arrived at the Book of Wisdom level for the True-Fighter Quest. I visited Wolfe's Lair and looked at the map there. It's great, of course. (Wolfe is my hero, by the way, for all the help she's been, even when she hasn't actually known she was helping.) Thing is....How do I *get* into the Valley of Tears in the first place? Far as I can see, the place is surrounded by cliffs. I'm trying to approach from the east, starting around Pergatori, but I'm not sure how much it matters, since the entire area appears to be walled in. I know it can't be, really, but...sure looks like it,

 

And, while I'm at it, there a cave right by the Harduk Village. The cave will let me in, but just inside the entrance, there's a gate that refuses to open. Is there something special I need to get the gate to open for me?

 

Once again, thanks, everyone, for your patience and help. I promise to try to keep the questions to a minimum.

 

 

Joe Sahya

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Hey Joe! You are SUCH a sweetheart :oooo:

 

Alrighty to answer the first one.... there are THREE ways to get into the Valley of Tears depending on whether you are playing SP or MP... and I forget which you play so I will tell you all three:

 

1. You can enter using the portal obviously (this would be for future visits of course ;) )

 

2. If you are playing MP then go downstairs into the portal room on the Haven Isle and take the very last portal on the left bottom.

 

3. If you are playing SP then part of the main quest requires you to go to the Valley of Tears but you must collection on the Dimensional Gate Glyphs, go all the way through Hell's Ridge, insert the Glyphs into stands into a cave at the end of Hell's Ridge, THEN when you exit the rear of the cave you will be in the VOT.

 

If you need me to elaborate at all just let me know :D

 

 

Okay as for question two.... that cave is part of the main quest line and you need to get a haduk villager to escort you to the cave and unlock the door to the "mines".... however there IS a backdoor to this cave which is directly North of that entrance. Just backtrack East a bit and go around the corner of the mountains and head west to find that entrance.

 

HERE is a tutorial for the beginning of the above main quest... but on that page is a screenshot showing you the two entrances ;)

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I fervently hope I'm doing this right. Computers hate me...and it's mutual. The only good reason for computers to exist is that it's hard to do a good flight-simulator with paper and pencil. Anyway, this is *supposed* to be a reply to Night Wolfe's reply to my questions about the Valley of Tears and like that. I can but hope this is how/where one is supposed to reply to a reply.<Sigh>

First of all, let me correct a small but vital misconception. No, Wolfe, I am *not* a sweetheart. I'm a big, mean, tough, nasty gladiator-type. And what's more, outside of Sacred, I'm a *lawyer*; we are not permitted to be sweet, and have no hearts, period.

Now, umm, about your replay to my post. I'm tempted to begin with "Oh NO!" but I'll restrain myself from that until I get something clear in my mind. You say I need dimensional glyphs to get into the Valley of Tears. But...but....But I don't *have* any such glyphs! I *did*, at certain points, but I used 'em, to get places, and stuff. (I think it was when I was chasing the Elements...I *think*.) Am I *supposed* to have dimensional glyphs? Do I have to go *get* 'em? Or worse - far, far worse - have I somehow blown it already? Do I have to start my guy all over again? (That possibility is what motivated the opening groan.)

I have no quests open, that could yield such glyphs (except for the *big* quest...Shadar-hunting). So, if I need them, where and how do I get them?

Reading this over, I recognize how dumb it sounds, and I'm sure I've something or other stupid, but I'm not at all sure what...or what to do about it. (I wish this game were about legal procedure; then *I* could be the guy with the answers, dang.)

Anyway....You remain among my heroes, Wolfe. (Perhaps I should point out that my other heroes include Oscar Madison, Homer Simpson, Charlie Brown, Opus the Penguin, and the unnamed lawyer who, on cross-examination, asked the witness, "Were you here when you testified this morning?" So....Well, I maintain it's a compliment *anyway*.)

I'll be deeply grateful for anything you can tell me about the damn glyphs.

 

Joe Sahyan

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Aaaahhhhhh a lawyer! Everyone run away! LOL ;) Hey wait..... if I'm a hero does that mean I get free legal advice? j/k hehe. And one more thing.... I'm not sure if I should be complimented by the fact that I'm a hero or insulted that I am on the same list as Homer Simpson! ROFLOL :D

 

Anyway........ you get the gate glyphs as part of the underworld main quest... they don't go into your inventory but they do show up in your Quest Item log. It is easy to tell if you have what you need though... if you are following the main quest line then you will automatically be sent to the Valley as soon as you have all the glyphs that are needed to get there. It is really something you won't be able to miss... you'll be sent to Shaddar's tower in Hell's Ridge and once you defeat the demon in his tower Shaddar's ghost will appear again and tell you to make your way to the Valley of Tears. But you only have to do it this way if you are playing Single Player... Oh and there is no risk of NOT picking up the glyphs because if you DON'T pick them up it the game won't let you continue on with the next main quest as you work your way through the campaign...

 

If you want a more detailed layout of what needs to be done though just follow the Underworld Main quest tutorials at my site...

 

I hope that explained it well enough to you... if not just let me know and I will try to give you a more complete answer or clarify whatever you didn't get ;)

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