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I guess a lot of Sacred 2 players are skilled Hack&Slash fans, easily
switching between combat arts and combos and doing everything in the
right time. I am rather a casual player and during heavy combat sometimes
I press wrong keys or misclick. My goal is to find the setup for all
characters suitable for people like me - who do not like to click too
much and who want to simplify their gameplay.

The only thing necessary for these builds is to find a good Area Effect CA (to
deal with many enemies). Suggested skill choices: CA's skill lore (high
priority in the terms of points assigned during the levelup) - General
skill 1 - CA's skill focus (top priority) - General skill 2 - (maybe
General skill 3) - defensive skills (Armor Lore, Constitution, Warding
Energy etc., low priority), Ancient Magic for extra boost to CA damage
(high priority). Weapon skills and Shield Lore are not necessary. From
my point of view the best CA's are these that may be placed somewhere
and they damage enemies for some time. If you use a buff from a different
school, you should take appropriate Focus (just to get all mod points for
the buff or maybe more). Two or three buffs: Concentration (this may be
a good choice anyway, because it lowers regeneration time, so indirectly
it may boost damage). My favourite General Skills are Bargaining (average,
high or top priority) and Smithing (1 or 5 points) but sometimes Enhanced
Perception may be necessary to get them. It may be worth to throw some
points there, especially for characters with empty common chest. Favourite
attribute: Intelligence (for CA damage output). Try to keep main combat
CA's at the level equal to the lower of two numbers: the level with the
best DPS (damage per total cooldown time, sometimes multiplied by the
rate of fire, usually this is the same as the max level without penalty)
and the level that CA duration is greater or equal to its total
regeneration time.

I have made my private ranking of available characters in terms of the
convenience of the gameplay and survivability.

1. Shadow Warrior, Astral Lord setup - when he gets Shadow Veil level 25,
he may cast spells and shoot without being noticed. He needs only 2 CA's:
SV as a buff and Skeletal Fortification. With CP 1.60 he is an excellent
supporting character - invest 5 points into Smithing, max Bargaining,
maybe some use of Enhanced Perception and he will be an ultimate treasure
hunter. One drawback: I was not able to kill the Ice Hydra during the
Christmas quest, its HP regeneration rate is insane.

2. I think Seraphim. She has 2 excellent CA's: Radiant Pillar and
Flaring Nova. FN acts immediately and around the character, so it needs
a bit more skill to use (my FN Seraphim has died a few times at Silver),
so I go for RP and my build is based on the Celestial Magic. The problem
with this build is that the only defensive buff for Seraphim is Warding
Energy (at low levels 1 rune is enough), so it means also Warding Energy
Lore (enhances the buff protection).

3. High Elf - vulnerable but a great firepower and regeneration ability.
Fire spells are great but Ice/Storm ones are better, so I suggest the
Mystic Stormite build. Simply Raging Nimbus is more convenient than
Blazing Tempest and Crystal Skin offers a better protection than
Incandescent Skin. For any HE Grand Invigoration is a no-brainer, so
Delphic Arcania Focus and Concentration.

4. Temple Guardian - vulnerable at the beginning, then a real killing
machine. Unlike for the other characters, I suggest two CA's: Fiery Ember
and Icy Evanescence (Source Warden). Both of them have a 15s cooldown
time, so the best method to use them seems to be to use one after another.
Their total regeneration time may be kept greater than their duration but
definitely smaller than two regeneration times (to be able at least to
cast one after another finishes). A buff: T-Energy Shroud (Devout Guardian).

5. Dryad. Malicious Totem (Cabalistic Voodoo) makes her to be a Shadow
Warrior without invisibility but maybe a better damage output. A buff
should be defensive, so Ancient Bark (Nature Weaver). Acute Mind (NW) may
be a good way to increase damage output.

6. Inquisitor. The best CA for my needs seems to be Levin Array - maybe
Clustering Maelstrom would be better if I knew how to use it effectively
(both Astute Supremacy). Definitely I need to play more with this
character. Buffs: perhaps Soul Reaver (Nefarious Netherworld) would be
the best (mod it with Recreation and Soul Imbiber), Zealous Doppelganger
(AS) also seems to be interesting. Why so low in my ranking? LA is great
in terms of damage but it needs some caution how to cast it, one may
easlily miss a lot of enemies.

7. Dragon Mage. Energy Blaze (Mentalism) looks promising but when I
tried to run a DM using this CA, he died so many times at Silver that
I have resigned. Maybe because I was playing at a laptop below
technical requirements (just enough RAM to run the game without many
CTD's, too weak CPU, poor GPU) so it loaded new areas, enemies and
during a heavy combat it reacted to keyboard and a mouse with a few
seconds delay. The DM is vulnerable, so any delay really hurts. A RP
Seraphim at this machine performed very well. I need to try this
build at a much more solid PC. Another option is the Dragon Strike
(Dragon Magic), but this has a limited use not in an open terrain.
Buff: perhaps the Rune of Protection, maybe also Familiar for better
stats.

S.

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4 hours ago, stachnie said:

I guess a lot of Sacred 2 players are skilled Hack&Slash fans, easily
switching between combat arts and combos and doing everything in the
right time. I am rather a casual player and during heavy combat sometimes
I press wrong keys or misclick. My goal is to find the setup for all
characters suitable for people like me - who do not like to click too
much and who want to simplify their gameplay.

The only thing necessary for these builds is to find a good Area Effect CA (to
deal with many enemies). Suggested skill choices: CA's skill lore (high
priority in the terms of points assigned during the levelup) - General
skill 1 - CA's skill focus (top priority) - General skill 2 - (maybe
General skill 3) - defensive skills (Armor Lore, Constitution, Warding
Energy etc., low priority), Ancient Magic for extra boost to CA damage
(high priority). Weapon skills and Shield Lore are not necessary. From
my point of view the best CA's are these that may be placed somewhere
and they damage enemies for some time. If you use a buff from a different
school, you should take appropriate Focus (just to get all mod points for
the buff or maybe more). Two or three buffs: Concentration (this may be
a good choice anyway, because it lowers regeneration time, so indirectly
it may boost damage). My favourite General Skills are Bargaining (average,
high or top priority) and Smithing (1 or 5 points) but sometimes Enhanced
Perception may be necessary to get them. It may be worth to throw some
points there, especially for characters with empty common chest. Favourite
attribute: Intelligence (for CA damage output). Try to keep main combat
CA's at the level equal to the lower of two numbers: the level with the
best DPS (damage per total cooldown time, sometimes multiplied by the
rate of fire, usually this is the same as the max level without penalty)
and the level that CA duration is greater or equal to its total
regeneration time.

I have made my private ranking of available characters in terms of the
convenience of the gameplay and survivability.

1. Shadow Warrior, Astral Lord setup - when he gets Shadow Veil level 25,
he may cast spells and shoot without being noticed. He needs only 2 CA's:
SV as a buff and Skeletal Fortification. With CP 1.60 he is an excellent
supporting character - invest 5 points into Smithing, max Bargaining,
maybe some use of Enhanced Perception and he will be an ultimate treasure
hunter. One drawback: I was not able to kill the Ice Hydra during the
Christmas quest, its HP regeneration rate is insane.

2. I think Seraphim. She has 2 excellent CA's: Radiant Pillar and
Flaring Nova. FN acts immediately and around the character, so it needs
a bit more skill to use (my FN Seraphim has died a few times at Silver),
so I go for RP and my build is based on the Celestial Magic. The problem
with this build is that the only defensive buff for Seraphim is Warding
Energy (at low levels 1 rune is enough), so it means also Warding Energy
Lore (enhances the buff protection).

3. High Elf - vulnerable but a great firepower and regeneration ability.
Fire spells are great but Ice/Storm ones are better, so I suggest the
Mystic Stormite build. Simply Raging Nimbus is more convenient than
Blazing Tempest and Crystal Skin offers a better protection than
Incandescent Skin. For any HE Grand Invigoration is a no-brainer, so
Delphic Arcania Focus and Concentration.

4. Temple Guardian - vulnerable at the beginning, then a real killing
machine. Unlike for the other characters, I suggest two CA's: Fiery Ember
and Icy Evanescence (Source Warden). Both of them have a 15s cooldown
time, so the best method to use them seems to be to use one after another.
Their total regeneration time may be kept greater than their duration but
definitely smaller than two regeneration times (to be able at least to
cast one after another finishes). A buff: T-Energy Shroud (Devout Guardian).

5. Dryad. Malicious Totem (Cabalistic Voodoo) makes her to be a Shadow
Warrior without invisibility but maybe a better damage output. A buff
should be defensive, so Ancient Bark (Nature Weaver). Acute Mind (NW) may
be a good way to increase damage output.

6. Inquisitor. The best CA for my needs seems to be Levin Array - maybe
Clustering Maelstrom would be better if I knew how to use it effectively
(both Astute Supremacy). Definitely I need to play more with this
character. Buffs: perhaps Soul Reaver (Nefarious Netherworld) would be
the best (mod it with Recreation and Soul Imbiber), Zealous Doppelganger
(AS) also seems to be interesting. Why so low in my ranking? LA is great
in terms of damage but it needs some caution how to cast it, one may
easlily miss a lot of enemies.

7. Dragon Mage. Energy Blaze (Mentalism) looks promising but when I
tried to run a DM using this CA, he died so many times at Silver that
I have resigned. Maybe because I was playing at a laptop below
technical requirements (just enough RAM to run the game without many
CTD's, too weak CPU, poor GPU) so it loaded new areas, enemies and
during a heavy combat it reacted to keyboard and a mouse with a few
seconds delay. The DM is vulnerable, so any delay really hurts. A RP
Seraphim at this machine performed very well. I need to try this
build at a much more solid PC. Another option is the Dragon Strike
(Dragon Magic), but this has a limited use not in an open terrain.
Buff: perhaps the Rune of Protection, maybe also Familiar for better
stats.

S.

Thanks for this detailed build post stachnie, and what a title ! :lol: what player doesnt want as hands free an approach to getting those enemies, specially when trying to get to the higher levels.   I like how you've chosen a  particular lazy player build per class... gerat approach and it's a great way for a new player to get their hands on the game's mechanics, notoriously challenging and bonky :lol:

Welcome to DarkMatters!

:)

 

gogo

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On 9/11/2018 at 6:07 PM, belgarathmth said:

My go-to build is a Shadow Warrior with Malevolent Champion Focus. My combo is fully modded Belligerent Vault followed by fully modded Frenzied Rampage.[...]

Interesting - maybe I will try something like this one day,- or maybe something else, e.g. Skeletal Fortification without Shadow Veil, Grim Resilience as a buff and a staff (Int.) or lightsabre (Willpower) as a weapon. This would mean also Death Warrior Focus.

On 9/11/2018 at 6:07 PM, belgarathmth said:

I tried the infamous invisible Shadow Warrior Astral Lord build once, and I didn't find it fun,

Because this build is NOT fun - like everything that is too easy. I have finished one game with this build, I tried to do this a few times more but I have abandoned these games soon after getting full Invisibility (SV level 25). However. as an utility character he is a perfect choice.

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I have managed to finish the game with the two most problematic characters (Dragon Mage and Inquisitor). I was playing with Enhanced Edition, Enhanced Spells and Superspawn.

 

Inquisitor: the main problem were bosses. My first character was purely spell-based, Astute Supremacy only with Zealous Doppleganger and Reverse Polarity buffs and I had abandoned him. In the second go I went also for Gruesome Inquisition focus and used Purifying Chastisement as the only buff.

Slot 1: combo Callous Execution and Mortifying Pillory. Great against single champions, I used this also against heavily magic-resistant bosses (the demons in the wetlands and outside the Agkor-Wat-like temple in jungle).

Slot 2: Levin Array. Great against a few opponents in one direction (e.g. narrow passes), sufficient against most bosses (modded for range, damage and healing).

Slot 3: combo Clustering Maelstrom and Eruptive Desecration. Gather as many enemies as possible, cast, rinse, repeat. The ultimate mob control, does not work against single opponents.

Slot 4: combo Frenetic Fervor and Paralyzing Dread but I almost never remembered to cast it.

Slot 5: Zealous Doppelganger. Not very useful.

Skills: Astute Supremacy lore (top), Bargaining (medium), Astute Supremacy focus (top), Blacksmith (1), Gruesome Inquisition (high -> top), Armor lore (1), Combat Discipline (1), Toughness (1), Spell resistance (low), Constitution (1).

Weapon: a magic 1h staff + shield.

This character died some 11 or 12 times on Silver (e.g. 6 times when fighting against Gar-Colossus).

 

Dragon Mage: Mentalism + Dragon Magic focus. Buffs: Draconic Ally (former Familiar) and Runes of Protection.

Slot 1: Mind Strike. Great against single opponents.

Slot 2: Energy Blaze.

Slot 3: Maelstrom. Main combat art. Mob control: spam it among enemies and keep running away. Good also against single targets and some bosses.

Slot 4: combo Dragon’s Wrath and Combat Trance (I rarely remebered to use it).

Slot 5: In fact not used.

Skills: Mentalism lore (top), Bargaining (medium), Mentalism focus (top), Dragon Magic focus (high -> top), Blacksmith (1), Concentration (1), Armor lore (very low), Combat Discipline (1), Ancient Magic (high), Constitution (low).

Weapon: staff+shield.

This character died a few times at the beginning.

 

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