syn 0 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Hi all, the Sacred Wiki is fantastic and I'd like to contribute too. I have all the niob set items with min level up to 100, so could help out with Sets. Maybe Wiki Set pages should have tables with all possible set items, what do you think? For example for BM it would look smth like this DAGOWIT's Mind Tricks Ghost 6 18 30 42 54 66 79 90 Bonds 6 18 30 42 54 66 78 90 Bracers 7 19 31 44 55 68 80 91 Grip 6 18 30 42 54 66 78 90 Haste 7 19 30 44 55 67 79 91 Wrath 6 18 30 42 54 66 78 90 MAMMON's Treasures Armor 10 22 34 46 58 70 82 94 Turban 10 22 34 46 58 70 82 94 Shield 10 22 34 46 59 71 82 94 Cut 10 22 34 46 58 70 82 94 Amulet 10 22 34 45 58 70 82 95 Ring 10 22 34 46 58 70 82 94 AMARRI's Secret Hood 14 26 38 50 62 74 87 98 Garment 14 26 38 50 62 74 86 98 Bracers 14 26 39 50 63 74 86 98 Belt 14 26 38 50 62 74 86 98 Greaves 14 27 37 51 62 74 86 99 BYLETH's Fervent Furor Armor 26 40 54 68 82 96 110 Blaze 26 40 54 68 82 97 110 Shield 26 40 54 68 82 96 110 Amulet 26 40 54 69 83 97 111 Ring 26 41 54 67 82 97 110 RELMIN's Protection Helmet 30 47 62 78 94 Armor 30 46 63 78 94 Arms 30 46 63 78 94 Belt 30 46 62 78 94 Legs 30 46 62 78 94 BLACKSTAFF's Icy Invocation Hood 34 52 70 88 Body 34 52 70 88 Arms 34 53 69 88 Belt 34 50 70 86 Legs 34 52 71 87 Boots 34 50 70 86 Amulet 34 52 70 88 PATERNUS' Argument Hood 46 70 94 Armor 46 70 94 Belt 46 70 98 Boots 46 70 98 Sword 46 70 94 Shield 46 72 94 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,071 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 wow very impressive Syn. and btw, welcome to the forum and the wiki! Your permissions have been adjusted so you can now edit SacredWiki itself and try and see how your idea could work on the wiki. Great idea gogo Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Looks like some great info syn. Every once in a while I think about how early in the levels a set can drop. The info you posted would answer that and be quite useful I think. If I'm reading your information correctly then what you have posted is BM sets and the levels that can drop at? It might be useful to show both max/min level for each which might look like this: PATERNUS' Argument Hood 58/46 82/70 106/94 Armor 58/46 82/70 106/94 Belt 58/46 82/70 106/94 Boots 58/46 82/70 106/94 Sword 58/46 82/70 106/94 Shield 58/46 82/70 106/94 Or since the drop levels are always the same for every piece of a single set, or very close to that, maybe it could be done like this: DROP LEVEL RATE FOR: Max/Min Level DAGOWIT's Mind Tricks 10/6 23/18 36/30 50/42 62/54 76/66 89/78 106/90 MAMMON's Treasures 14/10 26/22 40/34 52/45 66/58 80/70 92/82 108/95 AMARRI's Secret 18/14 32/27 44/37 59/51 70/62 82/74 94/86 112/99 BYLETH's Fervent Furor 30/26 46/41 60/54 74/67 90/82 110/97 125/110 RELMIN's Protection 36/30 52/47 68/62 86/78 109/94 BLACKSTAFF's Icy Invocation 40/34 60/52 80/70 98/88 PATERNUS' Argument 58/46 82/70 106/94 Great idea syn. Link to comment
syn 0 Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 I listed items' minimum levels, thats when you can start wearing them. But drops depend on item level so perhaps both should be listed, eg Amarri hood: 14/20 26/35 38/50 50/65 62/80 ... 170/215 182/230 and a pic is always abit more clear In my experience enemies always drop unique and set items close to their own level, so the very first amarri hood you'd get from monsters with levels from 14 to 27, levels 28 to 42 would drop already the next item. But I'm not 100% sure, it's pretty difficult to test. Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Aaaah. That would be awesome to have the range of stats for each item. Very interesting syn! I've gone ahead and created a table so that the info can be entered on each items page. The draft table can be seen on the Amarri's Golden Hood page and now looks like the below pic. It's a simple wiki table so you can easily edit the page to enter info or even copy the entire table to a different item page. I can see about creating a wiki template for it as well to simplify things further. Let me know what you think of the table syn and if you need any help with it. Oh and very true about drop lvls being the same or near the enemies level and not your own. Tested that a couple of times with consistent results. Very handy for MFing for low level gear I think eh? Link to comment
syn 0 Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 Yes. it would be cool to have stats for all pieces, the problem is there are 487 pieces for BM alone. My original idea was just to list all the items. Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Ah ok syn. I think I may have misunderstood you. How about you try out what you're thinking on the wiki and then once we have an example we can brainstorm some more. Keep in mind though that we don't want to have too many images on a single page for the sake of style and bandwidth with regards to people with dial up connections. Link to comment
syn 0 Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 Hi Schot, I finally had some time to play with the lists.Have a look and tell me what you think The Amarri hood page you made was actually very good but I made some changes. I think it would be even better if the tables of one set were on one page for easier comparison Link to comment
gogoblender 3,071 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Nice work Syn. The table is slightly stretching my browser however since it's set up for 1024 x 768...will look at the sizing. good job on the data and looks like you're handy with tables gogo Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Aaaah. Very nice syn. Yes I agree. Having the table you made on the main set page makes perfect sense. As gogo said the page did get stretched by the table so what I did was move your table outside of and below the table that contains all the images and content that creates a left and right column. So now it will scale nicely no matter what resolution we are in. Well... Except 800x600, heh. Good stuff. I like it. P.s. I adjusted the layout of Amarri's Golden Hood as well to scale so as to work in different resolutions which I'll apply to the rest of the set item pages. Link to comment
gogoblender 3,071 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Very comprehensive and a great addition to the wiki Great job both of you gogo Link to comment
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