Armor sets/items added by CM versus sets shown downloadable in the Wiki?

[Ikkrow 2]

So, I'm new to Sacred as a franchise in general. Being in the U.S. I overlooked them I suppose... Until I saw Fallen Angel on a more obscure gaming DL service--I HAD to have it. Anyways after waiting for Blood & Ice to become available in the U.S.--I have it! So I'm new here, and a Sacred 2 noob. So my question follows: I am seeing these great-looking armor sets, and other items on the Wiki along with DL links (awesome btw!) what I wonder is this; If I have the CM patch installed, what am I going to miss with regards to those awesome-looking armor sets/items I see on the Wiki? ie. which ones are NOT added by the CM patch?

I thought I saw where *some* of those sets are listed as CM required, but some did not seem to say one way or another.[s2wiki][/s2wiki].. I just want to confirm I must separately DL those then, no? Also, I was reading the description for one of those sets after clicking the DL link. At the bottom of the description, it gives instructions to backup my chest file, install the one from my chosen set, login to my game, and that set will be in what I assume is my storage chest? Does this mean they do not drop random in-game?

Sorry for the long-winded, and noobish 1st post, but I just didn't want to comb through all those DL for those awesome items and armors if not necessary! Thanks everyone in advance for your time!

[Flix 5,116]

Hello and welcome.

 

If I have the CM patch installed, what am I going to miss with regards to those awesome-looking armor sets/items I see on the Wiki? ie. which ones are NOT added by the CM patch?

 

You're not going to *miss* anything with the CM Patch, in fact installing it is the only way to make sure you'll have all possible items available to you.

 

What we try to do on the Wiki is clearly designate items that are Fallen Angel, Ice and Blood, or CM Patch. The frames around Ice and Blood & CM Patch item stats and screenshots are different, and they are labeled. Furthermore, it should be the case that any item/item type, quest, NPC, or boss added in the CM Patch should have a little notice at the top of the page that says "This is available only by installing the CM Patch."

 

It's not 100% uniform yet, in fact I have been slowly reviewing all the sets recently to make sure everything's clearly designated, but I haven't made it to the CM Patch entries yet. However, the character pages and the main Sets page both list CM Patch items separately, so there should be no confusion.

 

 

I thought I saw where *some* of those sets are listed as CM required, but some did not seem to say one way or another.[s2wiki][/s2wiki].. I just want to confirm I must separately DL those then, no?

 

When you download the items from our DL section, you are getting copies of the armor in a chest (they appear in the shared storage part of your stash). Using these item downloads affects your game in no other way, so all items will still drop the same. Likewise, simply downloading a new CM Patch set wouldn't add it to your game, you'd need to actually install the CM Patch first, otherwise the chest would be empty. In other words you don't download the items here to install them, they're installed by installing the game, the expansion, and the CM Patch. When you download them it's just like someone's sharing their drops with you.

[Ikkrow 2]

Ahh. Thank you for taking the time to clear that up for me. It seems I was just making it harder than it really was then. I appreciate your time, and answer very much

[Flix 5,116]

No problem. Since we're talking about new sets and stuff I might as well plug the Community Items Mod. It unlocks some of the unused items in the game files and adds a whole slew of cool new weapons and armor sets to the drops and new items to merchants as well. We're working on adding to the CM Patch but for now it's a separate install that can be installed on top of the CM Patch. You can see what was added in the mod in this thread.

[gogoblender 3,070]

Hello and welcome.

 

If I have the CM patch installed, what am I going to miss with regards to those awesome-looking armor sets/items I see on the Wiki? ie. which ones are NOT added by the CM patch?

 

You're not going to *miss* anything with the CM Patch, in fact installing it is the only way to make sure you'll have all possible items available to you.

 

What we try to do on the Wiki is clearly designate items that are Fallen Angel, Ice and Blood, or CM Patch. The frames around Ice and Blood & CM Patch item stats and screenshots are different, and they are labeled. Furthermore, it should be the case that any item/item type, quest, NPC, or boss added in the CM Patch should have a little notice at the top of the page that says "This is available only by installing the CM Patch."

 

It's not 100% uniform yet, in fact I have been slowly reviewing all the sets recently to make sure everything's clearly designated, but I haven't made it to the CM Patch entries yet. However, the character pages and the main Sets page both list CM Patch items separately, so there should be no confusion.

 

 

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I thought I saw where *some* of those sets are listed as CM required, but some did not seem to say one way or another.[s2wiki][/s2wiki].. I just want to confirm I must separately DL those then, no?

 

When you download the items from our DL section, you are getting copies of the armor in a chest (they appear in the shared storage part of your stash). Using these item downloads affects your game in no other way, so all items will still drop the same. Likewise, simply downloading a new CM Patch set wouldn't add it to your game, you'd need to actually install the CM Patch first, otherwise the chest would be empty. In other words you don't download the items here to install them, they're installed by installing the game, the expansion, and the CM Patch. When you download them it's just like someone's sharing their drops with you.

Thorough explanation

Thanks for taking the time to walk it through for us Flix

 

 

gogo

[Ikkrow 2]

Ah, thanks again for the heads-up Flix! Those items look interesting & fun, so I gave the Community Items Mod a download. I think I'll run with that and the CM patch from my first playthrough, much appreciated. Oh, since I'm here, are there any other optional files that any of you guys recommend before I start my first game, by chance? The Steam forums seem sort of discombobulated for this game comparatively, heh.

(edited for grammar, for better or worse)

Edited June 4, 2014 by Ikkrow