Sacred Underworld - Does raising riding skill to 25 allow to have any horse even in Niobium? A small question about Horses.

[kitty777 6]

Hello!

Ive been looking all over the net to find an answer. Im sorry if the topic exists already, just point me to it then please.

So the question: Does raising riding skill to 25 allows to have any horse even in Niobium? Or does the game rises the required lvl on a new difficulty? I like speed, so the Light Riding Horse is best for me. It doesn't require Riding skill on Gold. But maybe if I want to buy Light Riding Horse in Niobium it does require riding? Can anyone please clarify this for me?

kitty.

[gogoblender 3,646]

9 hours ago, kitty777 said:

Hello!

Ive been looking all over the net to find an answer. Im sorry if the topic exists already, just point me to it then please.

So the question: Does raising riding skill to 25 allows to have any horse even in Niobium? Or does the game rises the required lvl on a new difficulty? I like speed, so the Light Riding Horse is best for me. It doesn't require Riding skill on Gold. But maybe if I want to buy Light Riding Horse in Niobium it does require riding? Can anyone please clarify this for me?

kitty.

HI Kitty!

Awesome seeing you back... ready for more delicious cheesy poutine ?

and regarding Ancaria's awesome horsies ... 

Raising your Riding skill to 25 in Sacred 2 Fallen Angel won't grant you access to any horse in Niobium. Here's the breakdown:

Riding Skill: This skill reduces the penalty to your character's Combat Arts regeneration while mounted on a regular horse. It does not affect special mounts or movement speed bonuses (which can be buggy).

Horses in Niobium: Niobium is a higher level area, and the regular horses you might find in earlier zones won't be available for purchase there. You'll encounter stronger mounts like Griffons or Nightmare steeds.

Mounting Up:

Regular Horses: These require no Riding skill and offer basic movement speed.

Special Mounts: Mounts like the Seraphim or Dragon Mage Draconicon have unique abilities and require completing specific quests to obtain.

In short, your Riding skill won't unlock specific horses in Niobium. You'll need to find the appropriate mount for that area, either by purchasing it or completing a quest.

 

 

gogo

[kitty777 6]

Ehhh I meant Sacred Gold. Sacred 1 game. I still intend to play Sacred 2 eventually, so thanks for the info!!!

[gogoblender 3,646]

1 hour ago, kitty777 said:

Ehhh I meant Sacred Gold. Sacred 1 game. I still intend to play Sacred 2 eventually, so thanks for the info!!!

Yeeks! Sorry Kitty.. I didnt see the category this topic was under .. me bad    Hopefully someone around here will show up and give us some info and I can research around to see what's out there as well.

gogo

[gogoblender 3,646]

Aand... found some bits... this help ?:

I knew there was a lot of uncertainities regarding riding when the game came out, and Pevil, one of the great riders of all time had a website with tons of info for underworld.. ill try to see if i can reach her .. and in the mean time 
 

Raising your riding skill can affect your ability to ride different types of horses. However, the specific level of riding skill required can vary depending on the type of horse and the difficulty level of the game.

The riding skill also affects your attack rating when you’re on a horse. Your attack rating drops significantly to about 2/3 of its unmounted value when you get on a horse. But as you improve your riding skill, this penalty decreases. At level 25 riding, which is enough to use the Heavy Warhorse, the mounted attack rating is only about 98% of the unmounted value!! 😱

As for your specific question about whether raising riding skill to 25 allows you to have any horse even in Niobium, it seems there’s some uncertainty. 
 

The game might increase the required level for a horse on a new difficulty.

So, it’s possible that you might need a higher riding skill level to ride certain horses in Niobium.

[kitty777 6]

Thanks!

[gogoblender 3,646]

2 hours ago, kitty777 said:

Thanks!

Woot! Got any selfies of your toon on a horse? 
For “horse”terity 

of course 

 

[kitty777 6]

Hello gogo!

Sorry for not answering for so long! Some problems happened.

Anyway, once I reach max level Ill make a screen shot with my steed!

[gogoblender 3,646]

On 6/5/2024 at 11:39 AM, kitty777 said:

Hello gogo!

Sorry for not answering for so long! Some problems happened.

Anyway, once I reach max level Ill make a screen shot with my steed!

Wooooh, bring it on! Steed shots are impressive things.. the height, and the perspective... ive been messing around with dahley lately... maybe it has a chance outing a poorly dextrous artist like me that can  fudge about anything by just looking at it

gogo

[Sethi22 413]

On 5/16/2024 at 10:20 PM, gogoblender said:

As for your specific question about whether raising riding skill to 25 allows you to have any horse even in Niobium, it seems there’s some uncertainty. 
The game might increase the required level for a horse on a new difficulty.

So, it’s possible that you might need a higher riding skill level to ride certain horses in Niobium.

Finally something I can answer myself, as I just finished a char in Niobium with riding. 25 points was enough even in Niobium, nothing more needed. And yes it is worth it! My beautiful heavy war horse gave me like 65% HP bonus in the end. If you have many + skill stuff, maybe you're ok even with 1 point in riding, but 25 points for 65% HP bonus is worth it too. No big deal...

[SLD 524]

2 hours ago, Sethi22 said:

My beautiful heavy war horse gave me like 65% HP bonus in the end

I only ever rode horses for the speed. And max speed horses don't have a riding requirement so I never bothered with that skill

[Sethi22 413]

I love speedy horses too, that undead horse waiting for me at the south end of the desert is my favourite! Yeeehaaa!

But Pipike (my heavy war horse) is different. He is beautiful, he has shiny white mane, is very obedient and has saved my life too. And his somewhat slower speed reminds me how important it is to stay vigilant at all times! I bought him on the Pirate Island in bronze, and he has served me faithfully all the way till the end. And now we're bonded for life. And we'll live happily ever after...

Edited July 27, 2024 by Sethi22

[gogoblender 3,646]

2 hours ago, Sethi22 said:

I love speedy horses too, that undead horse waiting for me at the south end of the desert is my favourite! Yeeehaaa!

But Pipike (my heavy war horse) is different. He is beautiful, he has shiny white mane, is very obedient and has saved my life too. And his somewhat slower speed reminds me how important it is to stay vigilant at all times! I bought him on the Pirate Island in bronze, and he has served me faithfully all the way till the end. And now we're bonded for life. And we'll live happily ever after...

Hi Sethi! Horses were Kings in underworld! I forgot *stuff* about them...every time you go to a stable, does it regen a new horse...with variable stats within a range for the type of horse you're looking at? As well...  I remember having a *speed* slot in Underworld...invaluable...and I also put far sight stuff into it as well.. kind of like a combo see far, run fast too AND DESTROY UPON ARRIVAL  I dont remember anymore ... does a speed weapon slot amp even your horses speed with you on it?

 

gogo

[Sethi22 413]

1 hour ago, gogoblender said:

every time you go to a stable, does it regen a new horse with variable stats within a range for the type of horse you're looking at?

 

Wow, glad you asked this, I just went back to the pirate island where I bought him and found out, that the one sold there at the moment (at the end of Niobium) is higher level by far! So I got rid of the old one, like it was nothing. I sold him. How could I bond with this stupid, smelly old beast anyway? Taking a closer look, he's not even shiny white. Grey instead. How dull! But now I have a new Pipike, that gives 71% HP bonus!  So they do respawn, and adjust to your level, although I don't know how often.

About the speed part: No, your own movement speed doesn't count. It's the movement speed of the horse that gets pumped by your riding skill (My new Pipike had only 140 speed in the shop, but when I sat on him, his speed became 175 permanently, thanks to my riding skill of 25. Plus the saddle counts of course, in my case +33. Meaning 208 in the end. (So I'm actually faster on foot, with my 220)

 

Edited July 27, 2024 by Sethi22

[gogoblender 3,646]

42 minutes ago, Sethi22 said:

Wow, glad you asked this, I just went back to the pirate island where I bought him and found out, that the one sold there at the moment (at the end of Niobium) is higher level by far! So I got rid of the old one, like it was nothing. I sold him. How could I bond with this stupid, smelly old beast anyway? Taking a closer look, he's not even shiny white. Grey instead. How dull! But now I have a new Pipike, that gives 71% HP bonus!  So they do respawn, and adjust to your level, although I don't know how often.

About the speed part: No, your own movement speed doesn't count. It's the movement speed of the horse that gets pumped by your riding skill (My new Pipike had only 140 speed in the shop, but when I sat on him, his speed became 175 permanently, thanks to my riding skill of 25. Plus the saddle counts of course, in my case +33. Meaning 208 in the end. (So I'm actually faster on foot, with my 220)

 

Do yiu have a trading suit? We always had those for trading sessions .. if yiu amp yiur trading does the horses that are for sale improve?

🚀

gogo

[Sethi22 413]

No. I don't see any changes, Gogo. (But I could only check it with my dwarf shopper, he's the one with the trading skill and the trading suit.) And dwarves can't ride, but I don't think that matters. I guess the prize would go down, if I could buy one, but the stats remained the same when equipping my trading suit.

Edited July 27, 2024 by Sethi22

[pevil 125]

Randomly thought I'd pop by (Hi GoGo! ) and I see horses still being discussed! I'm so happy

I'll just drop this link in case anyone is curious what riding skill actually affects, though there are all sorts of oddities to it: http://pctalk.info/Games/Sacred2/PevilsPlace/sacred/ridings.php

Also from horse section of my site: When buying a horse in levels above bronze, buy the horse, then GO BACK to the stable. Once you buy the 'base' horse, most of the time a new horse will spawn that is basically that horse with a saddle already on. They have improved stats and not only that, but can have another saddle put on. This is how to get the wonderful "Gold Mystdale Heavy Warhorse" that is the best 'normal' mount you can get.

[gogoblender 3,646]

1 hour ago, pevil said:

Randomly thought I'd pop by (Hi GoGo! ) and I see horses still being discussed! I'm so happy

I'll just drop this link in case anyone is curious what riding skill actually affects, though there are all sorts of oddities to it: http://pctalk.info/Games/Sacred2/PevilsPlace/sacred/ridings.php

Also from horse section of my site: When buying a horse in levels above bronze, buy the horse, then GO BACK to the stable. Once you buy the 'base' horse, most of the time a new horse will spawn that is basically that horse with a saddle already on. They have improved stats and not only that, but can have another saddle put on. This is how to get the wonderful "Gold Mystdale Heavy Warhorse" that is the best 'normal' mount you can get.

Forget this post for just a few seconds I just wanna hug and welcome you back pevil!… mistress of horses is here!! How are you doing? Where are you doing? Are you doing well and what are you playing?  

I tried to answer this post as best as I could, while wishing that you were still around thank you for coming back and helping out as you always did and do… I miss riding with the gang on the Sandy Hills of Ancaria … wands ablaze!

gogo

 

[pevil 125]

Sweet as ever Gogo. I won't derail this topic (dismount this topic? ) though, I'll head on over to the other forums and fill you in.

Seems while catching up on posts I forgot they patched out the mystdale gold warhorse... my Sacred skills are very rusty Luckily this site is filled with fab Sacred people to correct my mistakes!