Therion X 19 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Hey everyone, now, I'd like to share my Experiences with a Daemoness, that survives with only 1% Lifeleech on Niob and can kill EVERYTHING with just one Hit, except one sinlge Enemy. There are many Ways to skill a dive-attacking Daemoness, and I want to show you my favourite (and most damage-dealing) Way to play her. Well okay.. there are two Versions of that one Way -= The Perfectionist's Way =- Skills & Attributes lvl1: Weapon Lore (for the dealt Damage) -> 100 Points here. Experienced Players only chose it and get the Rest per Boni. lvl1: Meditation (for Spell Regeneration) -> about 100 Points here. lvl3: Sword Lore (for Aarnums Set) -> 10 Points here. lvl6: Constitution (for more Life) -> 100 to 140 Points here. lvl12: Concentration (for Dive Attack's Regeneration) -> 100 to 140 Points here. lvl20: Amour (for more Resistances) -> about 100 Points here. lvl30: Parry (for some Defence) -> 100 to 140 Points here. lvl50: Hell Power (for additional Spell Regeneration) -> about 100 Points here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All Attribute Points go into Strengh, as it boosts Life, Weapon's Fire Damage and Attack Rating. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Combat Arts & Spells 1. Soaring Daemon This is the Base for our Dive Attack. There is a little Trick, I don't know, its known here: Make a Combo with Soaring Daemon lvl1 and keep it for the Rest of your Jouney. When you activate Soaring Daemon per Combo, you'll be able to use Dive Attack immediately, without having to wait for it's Regeneration. As the Flight Time isn't of Interest, this is the perfect Way, we wanna use it. The Combo's Regeneration depends on your Char's Level. So it will shrink constantly. 2. Dive Attack Dive Attack is our Mob-, Boss- and generally Main Killer. You can read more Runes here, after you made the Soaring Daemon Combo, this is well important! And Dive Attack is it, whose Regeneration Time is important. The best Regeneration Time, I'd recomment you, is slightly below the Soaring Daemon Combo's Regeneration. 3. Infernal Power Infernal Power is our Attack Rating and Fire Damage Buff, it is very important for this Daemoness. To maximize IP's Damage Boost Effectivity, always try to keep Pure Fire Damage (see Inventory - Weapon). Read everything, you find and until lvl255 even more often than Dive Attack itself. It's primary important to get huge Attack Rating at the Beginning. 4. Call of Death To be honest, Call of Death isn't really important. But for some really freaky Damage, you can use it as well. If you want to use it, just read 36 Runes for max. Effect and Duration (6%, 60s). Equipment & Jewlery Head: Pandora's Prophetic Circlet (Weapon Lore, experience,) Torso: Kleb-Dracad's Guardian (Hell Power) or Tealon'S Breastplate of Magic (x to all Spells, Spell Reg, ment. Reg) or Rares with Reg Special Move and Weapon Lore Shoulders: Kleb-Dracad's Recuperation (x to all Spells, experience) or Pandora's Evil Spur (x to all Skills) Arms: Draelokk's Appealing Arms (Infernal Power) or Rares with Reg Special Moves and Weapon Lore Hands: Dralkcib's Claws (x to all Skills) or Rares with Reg Special Moves and Weapon Lore Belt: Dralkcib's Hips (x to all Skills, RSM, phys Reg) or Pandora's Girdle of Frenzy (Infernal Power, Spell Reg) Legs: Rares with Reg Special Move/Spell Reg and Weapon Lore. Shoes: Rares with Reg Special Move/Spell Reg and Weapon Lore Weapon: A Complete socketed Aarnum Sword. (Alternative: Aarnums Sword with 2x Aarnum's adorning Wrath and 1x Aarnum's Thirst for Blood.) --------------------- Jewlery: There isn't very much, that is very perfectly fitting to this devastating Lady. But here are some: Aarnum's adorning Wrath (Fire Damage +xx%, Split, WiDD) - sock as many, as possible. Gold Ring of Strengh (Fire Damage and Strengh+x) - good for more Life, Damage and Attack Rating Silver Ring of Resting (Fire Damage, phys. Reg, ment. Reg) - good for more Life and all Combat Arts Regeneration Thodran Amfist's Adornment of Cleaving (Fire Damage +xx%, Split, Crit) - you can sock a few of them Playstyle & Additional Comments The Playstyle is easily described: Cast Infernal Power (and if you want to: Call of Death) and go hunting. When you see a Mob, cast the Soaring Daemon Combo, change to Dive Attack and stomp them into the Planet's Core. Even with a simple Left Click Hit, you can do far more than 2 Millions of Damage. So if there really are some Enemies, that survived your Dive Attack for some Reasons, you easily can kill them with simple Hits. There are some Things that can mess up the whole Action, but there are easy, fast-to-use Workarounds: After casting Soaring Daemon, I can't do Dive Attack.Just move a Step aside. Then you can Attack properly. [*]After doing Dive Attack, I can't attack with Left Click. Just move a Step aside to stop this Self-Stun. [*]After activating Infernal Power, I sometimes have Lags. Put a one-handed Weapon and a Shield into your Second Weapon Slot.When Lags are appearing, switch to that second Weapon Slot and back to the aarnum Slot.The Lags are gone, and it's done in half a Second. I myself played such a Daemoness up to 180. At the Moment, she kills everything at level 220+, except for Lorinor of Tyr-Fasul. This Dragon has extreme Fire Resistance and very great Defence. But appart from this Dragon, she can Kill everything at every Level, Valley of Tears is a Joke with her, as well as Hell's Ridge and every Region else. Except for Garema, I still don`t want to go there Be warned! This is one of the most devastating Characters in Sacred. But also one of the most defenseless and resistanceless. You do truly huge Damage, but also get truly much Damage. So for Emergencies: Have a quick Finger on your Space Bar. -= The 'safe' Way =- Axe Lore instead of Sword Lore. -> 20 Points Use Thains Axe instead of Aarnum's Sword. Fill the Sockets with 2x Aarnum's adorning Wrath and 1x Aarnum's Thirst for Blood. Useful Shield Possibilities: Ancient Defender, Adorno's Defense, Antic, Cubbi's ultimate Pentacle, Dark Moon, Horrid Kite Shield, Kite Shield of the Guild, Mireille's adept Paree, Warrior's Guardian. This Version has more Defense and Resistance and might be more suited for 'unsurer' Players. With Thains Axe, she does Way less Damage, but still enough for onehit most of your Enemies (but at same or slightly higher Levels). -------------------- So, that's it for Today. Hope, you like it. If there are any Questions open, feel free to ask. I'll try to solve the Problem(s). Greets, Therion X Link to comment
gogoblender 3,304 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 "Be warned! This is one of the most devastating Characters in Sacred. But also one of the most defenseless and resistanceless. You do truly huge Damage, but also get truly much Damage. So for Emergencies: Have a quick Finger on your Space Bar.' My Kind of toon! lol, this reminds me of the kind of pepto Bismol builds I adore playing with seraphims. Your work with the guides here is amazing Therion and you're bring Daemons to life with huge dramatic damage. Thank you for the guide and build! gogo Link to comment
Patroclo Picchiaduro 1 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 I'm trying this build Therion X :balance: Now I'm level 44, and soon I'll be able to hand an Aarnum Sword.. However, I still have to assign attributes.. Yes, I see that Aarnum rises fire damage depending on strength, but my doubt is that giving all points to physical regeneration is possible to rise dive attack at higher level with the same regeneration times; This would of course increase the damage. So where is better to assign our points? More over dexterity seems to rise weapon fire damage, plus the defence in (0.8 x level instead of 0.2), so it could be an alternative.. no? Link to comment
Schot 415 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Ah that must be Therion X doing his magic again. Awesome build Therion! Just the kind of fun I like to have. Extremely powerful and reeeaally scary dangerous! If ever I finally perfect my build I will definitely give this one a go. Great vid showing dah powah! Link to comment
Therion X 19 Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 I never choose Dex, because there'd be a Lack of HP. Strenght and phys. Regeneration give Life. And, later, there'd be maybe 5k Life, that you have to miss. So there's only Str & pReg to choose. And finally, it doesn't really matter, whether you choose more Base Damage or more CA-Damage.. you'll onehit nearly everything.. So, it doesn't really matter Link to comment
Patroclo Picchiaduro 1 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 (edited) So I'll wait .. there is no hurry, 'cause the daemon works very well. I'm level 46, and I have 10.000 of fire damage: After level 100, I'll export the pg and try the two options.. =) Edited June 27, 2007 by Patroclo Picchiaduro Link to comment
Moroco 0 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 something I just discover The island dragon can be easly be kill using the soaring deamon to hit from the water where it cant hit with his breath but it will keep trying till u kill him that is XDhehe happy dragon hunting XD Link to comment
Putrescine 12 Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 A true masterpiece it looks yes. <Insert Insanity Here> Link to comment
kjdannar 0 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I need something explained. I purchased Sacred Gold and rolled a Daemon. Skill level 1 skills for me are Weapon Lore and Magic Lore. I look at the Perfectionsit way of skill building and it starts off at level 1 with Weapon Lore and Meditation Lore. Why is there this difference? Would a patch fix this? Email me Link to comment
essjayehm 58 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Welcome to the boards, Kevin! There's a line in the options file that you can change so that you start without any skills chosen (ie you choose your first 2 skills, rather than have them assigned). Totally forget the specifics, lemme look around some. It's here, somewhere EDIT: Courtesy of Obsession hidden away in some long-lost topic You can select those by alterning Settings.cfg which is found in your sacred folder. Change that into txt file, open in a notepad and check line DEFAULT_SKILLS: 1, change this to DEFAULT_SKILLS: 0 and save, change .txt back to .cfg and you can select your starting skills. This is not hack or cheat of any kind and will not change anything else on the game. Link to comment
kjdannar 0 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I found the correct Settings.cfg to change the settings. From DEFAULT_SKILLS: 1, change this to DEFAULT_SKILLS: 0 Look for it at the following: C:\Users\<USERNAME>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\<path to the file> Link to comment
Randomfool 1 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Hey I know im late lol but how many runes do I spend on infernal power and on soaring demon? And do I use 1h+ shield weapon with most dmg or 2h weapon with most dmg 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Therion X 19 Posted March 25, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2016 Heyho, You create a Combo with one Level 1 Soaring Demon - make sure to never erase or update this Combo! Then youcan put as many runes into Soaring Demon as you like - just make sure its Regeneration Time doesn't grow too big. Find a comfortable balance between damage and time to gather new groups of enemies. In Combat you use the Level 1 combo to initiate the flight phase. But you actually launch the Dive Attack, your damage dealer, via the Level 79 or so Combat Art. The idea behind that is to take advantage of the two different regeneration times. Normally the Soaring Demon/Dive attack would reset the Combat Art at both phases, and they are of different types. Soaring Demon is an aura with higher base regeneration while Dive Attack and an attack has a lower base regeration. So for combat purposes it can be unproductive or counterintuitive to have to wait to attack for a long time since the regeneration goes up a lot in very high levels. With both the leveled Combat Art and the Level 1 Combo you can balance the waiting time as you please. The Level 1 combo will enable you with the shortest possible reg time for that combo - as you grow in character levels it will automatically decrease bit by bit. But always watch and compare the two reg times to see what feels comfortable, in lower and midlevels it can be more effective to use the Combat Art for both, depends on gear and your preferred playstyle (a leveled Soaring Demon can also be used for a tanky build since it increases Duration, Defense and Speed a lot at the cost of longer regenerations). Keep Inferal Power's Regeneration lower than its Duration, that's all. In highlevels when you have great damage output, abilities and regeneration times and you can mow down and collect groups pretty quickly you can also add Call of Death as a secondary spell (max level 36 for max duration). That can mean even quicker killing -> can play riskier. Use whatver weapons fit the build best at the moment. If you think Regeneration Times are too high, use something with Regeneration Special Moves +xx% bonus or Physical Regeneration +x or Soaring Demon/Hard Hit +x (that increases Soaring Demon, CA increases by Bonus add a little less to Regeneration Time). If you lack Damage, look for strong weapons with good base damage and plenty of damage bonuses, also Strength +xx is great. Focus on max 2 Damage types, one should ideally be Fire to take extra advantage of Infernal Power. Doesn't matter if 1h+Shield, 2h or Dual Wield. Use what you prefer or if you like it efficient, use what is best for the build. Just make sure to keep a 1h +Shield in a quick slot. Infernal Power sometimes loves to kill the Framerate when used with 2h weapons. Hope that helped Have Fun. 3 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,304 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Heyho, You create a Combo with one Level 1 Soaring Demon - make sure to never erase or update this Combo! Then youcan put as many runes into Soaring Demon as you like - just make sure its Regeneration Time doesn't grow too big. Find a comfortable balance between damage and time to gather new groups of enemies. In Combat you use the Level 1 combo to initiate the flight phase. But you actually launch the Dive Attack, your damage dealer, via the Level 79 or so Combat Art. The idea behind that is to take advantage of the two different regeneration times. Normally the Soaring Demon/Dive attack would reset the Combat Art at both phases, and they are of different types. Soaring Demon is an aura with higher base regeneration while Dive Attack and an attack has a lower base regeration. So for combat purposes it can be unproductive or counterintuitive to have to wait to attack for a long time since the regeneration goes up a lot in very high levels. With both the leveled Combat Art and the Level 1 Combo you can balance the waiting time as you please. The Level 1 combo will enable you with the shortest possible reg time for that combo - as you grow in character levels it will automatically decrease bit by bit. But always watch and compare the two reg times to see what feels comfortable, in lower and midlevels it can be more effective to use the Combat Art for both, depends on gear and your preferred playstyle (a leveled Soaring Demon can also be used for a tanky build since it increases Duration, Defense and Speed a lot at the cost of longer regenerations). Keep Inferal Power's Regeneration lower than its Duration, that's all. In highlevels when you have great damage output, abilities and regeneration times and you can mow down and collect groups pretty quickly you can also add Call of Death as a secondary spell (max level 36 for max duration). That can mean even quicker killing -> can play riskier. Use whatver weapons fit the build best at the moment. If you think Regeneration Times are too high, use something with Regeneration Special Moves +xx% bonus or Physical Regeneration +x or Soaring Demon/Hard Hit +x (that increases Soaring Demon, CA increases by Bonus add a little less to Regeneration Time). If you lack Damage, look for strong weapons with good base damage and plenty of damage bonuses, also Strength +xx is great. Focus on max 2 Damage types, one should ideally be Fire to take extra advantage of Infernal Power. Doesn't matter if 1h+Shield, 2h or Dual Wield. Use what you prefer or if you like it efficient, use what is best for the build. Just make sure to keep a 1h +Shield in a quick slot. Infernal Power sometimes loves to kill the Framerate when used with 2h weapons. Hope that helped Have Fun. Dang, Therion Yer still here, and in great form for the game... good seein ya back! gogo Link to comment
Flix 5,191 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 This kind of opened my eyes in how to make better use of the Daemon's forms and her special abilities that the forms unlock. My last Daemon kept dying and I couldn't figure out what I could have done differently. This may be the key. Link to comment
Augmint 109 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 "Hey I know im late lol but how many runes do I spend on infernal power and on soaring demon? And do I use 1h+ shield weapon with most dmg or 2h weapon with most dmg" Just a warning - Aarnums 2H is awesome - esp. trapping ranged archers - but it's hard if you play solo to get the full set. You'll be very lucky to get the full set before level 90. If you do choose axe lore plus sheild, then you can get thaines axe easily (3 sockets, fire and weapon lore boosts). http://pctalk.info/Games/Sacred2/Wolfes.Lair/SacredUnderworld/Pages/Eggs-ThainsAxe.html 1 Link to comment
Therion X 19 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 Yea mate, been playing the Demon for so long, it's been chiseled into my brain Just lurking around ^^ Cheers Dang, Therion Yer still here, and in great form for the game... good seein ya back! gogo 1 Link to comment
Sagittary 3 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Hello, can I ask a little question? This build is fun and all but at 44lvl silver I suddenly hit a brick wall with it. D'Cay the dragon of the undead is totally impossible to kill. The damage she's getting is no more than 100 points! Normally it's around 1000, and it was quite smooth gameplay up till this point. Using the veteranmod or not, same difference. Could it be a bug? Am I missing something or I got it wrong someplace? Thanks Link to comment
gogoblender 3,304 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Sagittary said: Hello, can I ask a little question? This build is fun and all but at 44lvl silver I suddenly hit a brick wall with it. D'Cay the dragon of the undead is totally impossible to kill. The damage she's getting is no more than 100 points! Normally it's around 1000, and it was quite smooth gameplay up till this point. Using the veteranmod or not, same difference. Could it be a bug? Am I missing something or I got it wrong someplace? Thanks I'll send a message to him, Sagittary, he was just here a wee while back and dropped off a lot of his builds as uploads for the community gogo Link to comment
Flix 5,191 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Sagittary said: Am I missing something or I got it wrong someplace? I believe it's because you're using Veteran mod aren't you? That mod made some parts of the game almost impossible. Nothing against it, but I'd recommend trying Sacred Reborn instead. It keeps challenge without making anything impossible. Link to comment
Sagittary 3 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, gogoblender said: I'll send a message to him, Sagittary, he was just here a wee while back and dropped off a lot of his builds as uploads for the community gogo Oh, thanks I appreciate. I've seen some recent Therion posts... For once it seems I joined a forum that is not dying atm lol. 34 minutes ago, Flix said: I believe it's because you're using Veteran mod aren't you? That mod made some parts of the game almost impossible. Nothing against it, but I'd recommend trying Sacred Reborn instead. It keeps challenge without making anything impossible. Well true, but I tried running Sacred.exe again which I believe is supposed to work as if NOT-MODED, and it's no difference... But hey thanks for that, I'm definitely gonna try this mod out you just install it and go right? Link to comment
Sagittary 3 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Ok, did it and uh, same situation. The ReBorn mod doesn't help one bit... Seems like a bug, do I have to reinstall the game? Link to comment
Popular Post Flix 5,191 Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 Can you post the savegame files as an attachment and I'll try it out? 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Therion X 19 Posted November 8, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 Well I don't know, could be many things. Do you have a good portion of Fire base damage? The more of it Infernal Power can boost, the better. Mouse-over your damages in the inventory/stat screen and see which damage types constitute how much of your total damage. Do you have Infernal Power boosted properly? The higher you have that (while still having regeneration below duration), the more boost your Damage and Attack can get. Do you have appropriate Attack values after casting Infernal Power? Keep in mind that raw base Attack is usually better than %-bonus to it, even more so as you increase Infernal Power. Mouse-over the last-killed enemy in your inventory/stat screen, or look at your latest enemies killed in your log book to get an estimation how you fare in terms of chance to hit. What's your Soaring Demon level? It does start relatively sluggish, with small radius and not too amazing damage/attack bonus. Maybe it's indeed some bug, maybe you've accidentally changed some overly important piece of equipment., maybe you've just hit some dead end in terms of too low gear... Hard to say going by what little info you gave us But I'd second Flix' notion, and would gladly check it out myself, if you were to upload it. I can't speak about mods though, never tried any. 1 1 Link to comment
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