tekken179 1 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) hi, so I just died for like the 7th time in my 100 hours gameplay :L but I'm only questoning now to why does your stats drop so much (strength,vitality etc.) do they raise back up:) Edited July 5, 2009 by gogoblender Link to comment
tekken179 1 Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 hi, so I just died for like the 7th time in my 100 hours gameplay :L but I'm only questoning now to why does your stats drop so much (strength,vitality etc.) do they raise back up:) Link to comment
Frisky 0 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) Basically, your characters 'survival bonus' gives you a stat increase and when you die your 'survival bonus' resets to 0% which = no stat bonus. Yes, it will go back up. See Below =D From Sacred WiKi For Pictures Mentioned in following text, refer to this link Sacred2Wiki Survival Bonus Page Survival Bonus is quite likely the most complex factor to do with any of the 6 character classes. Every character begins and ends with a varying percent of Survival Bonus which can be seen from the Character Information Screen by pushing the "F" Key and then hovering your cursor over the word "Character Class" at the top left. A box containing a list of information will pop up and around the middle of that list the total percent of Survival Bonus is shown. A character that has just begun (level 1) and has yet to engage in battle will have 0% Survival Bonus. When a character engages an opponent for the first time the character's Survival Bonus will increase immediately. Survival Bonus can only increase when in battle and it does so slowly. As an example, some players have attained approximately 80% Survival Bonus at around character level 60-70. Although Survival Bonus appears to increase quickly at first, its rate of increase will become slower as it increases. The time it would take for Survival Bonus to increase from 90-100% would be much much greater than the time taken to reach 0-90%. Survival Bonus is applied to the character in many ways but most notably it increases attributes and the Chance to Find Valuables. An example image can be seen to the right that demonstrates how Survival Bonus can change Attributes. The example animation image is of a level 1 Temple Guardian with 0.1% Survival Bonus versus a 71.7% Survival Bonus. However small the results may seem, it is actually quite significant. The same test on a much higher level character would give much greater results. The mechanism of how Survival Bonus modifies Attributes is important: it actually modifies the base stats of a character. The item modifiers and skills that are percent based also work off of a character's base stats. Essentially, 20% of nothing is nothing. 20% of 5 is 1. 20% of 50 is 10. This means that higher Survival Bonus = better base stats = better results from many modifiers. Even without modifiers, a character will still see some great changes such as improved damage from weapons and spells, more health, faster health regeneration, more attack, defense, spell intensity and resistance, lower Buff penalties and faster Combat Art regeneration. An example image to the left demonstrates these benefits. The more that is understood about Survival Bonus, the more can be seen as to just how important Survival Bonus. It isn't an optional component to a character. It is a necessary factor which can make AND break a build when pushed to the limit. 1/3rd or 33.3333% of a character's total Survival Bonus is applied to a character's attributes. If a character has 60% Survival Bonus then that character will receive a 20% bonus to its attributes. Survival Bonus can go as high as 100%, so the bonus to attributes can only be as high as 33.3333%. Edited July 5, 2009 by Frisky Link to comment
tekken179 1 Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 ahh I see didnt realise survival bonus was this important thankyou and thankyou sacred wiki Link to comment
gogoblender 3,072 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Hi Tekken. I'm sort of running right now, won't be able to tell you much about the game, but I changed your topic title to better reflect your question.. Please try and keep topic titles accurate as it can confuse and make difficult for other players/trying to find information here on this site. Specific information regarding questions on forum functionalities can be pmed to either me or Schot personally. I think the problem that happened is with your SB...when you die you lose it gogo Link to comment
gial 2 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 gogo pegged it. Survival Bonus can really boost your stats when it gets higher, so when you die stats drop. As you fight again, it comes back and you regain. And fortunately, it gains faster at lower levels. Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 This should help you find a deeper understanding tekken179. Dissecting Survival Bonus and laying it all out. Link to comment
DW SNIPERWOLF 0 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 another thing I can think of is that if you have changed your weapons or armour. If you weapons or armour have particular stat boosting qualities then when you change them you lose that particular bonus. Link to comment
CaptCrunchPants 0 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I would like to say congrats to who ever made the animation in the wiki page and spent 14 hrs to stay level 1. Link to comment
gogoblender 3,072 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 HI tekken179! Merged this topic with your other topic post with the same question. Careful with these double posts please Playing paste it across the forum gives me a hangover gogo p.s. CaptCrunchPants, that would be Schot who did the suffering for the wiki ^^ Link to comment
tekken179 1 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 haha thanks was a long day tht day my mind was wandering gogo yea I left my ps3 on all last nite on bronze letting ice demons attack me and turned my tv off got me up like 40% survival bonus back on 82 Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I would like to say congrats to who ever made the animation in the wiki page and spent 14 hrs to stay level 1. Thanx Capt! It's amazing what can be done while sleeping. Quite telling that animation eh. Link to comment
CaptCrunchPants 0 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I figured that was what was going on. Thanks for the info on SB though. Make me not want to die even on the PS3. I have seen a HUGE difference in damage on my ice elf. Link to comment
tekken179 1 Posted July 9, 2009 Author Share Posted July 9, 2009 thanks guys this can be deleted or locked now Link to comment
gogoblender 3,072 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 heh, here at DarkMatters, we don't delete topics or even close them here as much as possible because of a perceived "need" of closure regarding game info.. Great questions have an infinite number of angles, and maybe later on someone will have a nice comment or question that can add to the discovery. While a topic may be started by one person, it's value increases as more people add to the topic and it eventually comes to mean something to the entire community. Here's to great discussions, and wondrous summer margaritas! gogo Link to comment
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