Kinda stuck with Sacred 2

[Dobri 55]

Well, that's both good news and bad news, but I had to share.

 

The good news is that I'm stuck to playing Sacred 2 due to its controls. The bad news is that I forced to do so because of a hand injury.

 

I'm the captain of my team in the fan cup. I'm a goalkeeper, a pretty decent one, been one for like 20 years, I do diving saves, I do reflex saves and such. We were doing a routine training with some other guys, when a balloon ball came in. It's easy to catch so I said "easy!" and went to catch it. As soon as I caught it, one of my defenders decided to clear it with a fierce kick.

 

Suffice it to say, he cleared my hands.

 

The finger got swollen, but I overlooked it until today. I went to a scanner. The result is a bone fracture and a slightly dislocated joint on my left pointer finger.

 

Now the proper question now is - how a crippled keeper captain can lead his team to a win?

 

Since I am not the giving up type, I guess I should get used to another position even though I've been a goalkeeper my entire life

Edited May 6, 2010 by Dobri

[Flooxim 49]

This kind of things always happen. Hope you will get back with your team soon.

 

And in the meantime, I'm happy to know that you'll be playing Sacred 2 with us and share all your great knowledge.

 

 

Max

[Dobri 55]

I will do my best to share as much knowledge as I can

 

Problem is, I always take controlled risks. I always have a basic idea what do I want and I plan accordingly. I do not just dash into the unknown just like that. Most of my build are based on that. I confess. No priest or preacher or whatever kind of religious person is needed. Maybe this is why I only have 2 dead chars until now (1 because of a bad build, 1 because I didn't have a good Pyro Elf for the Orc Cave), even though I play for quite a while. However, I am in the mood of dashing into the unknown soon

 

In a way, I'm happy - I went from 115 to 121 in no time, using my middle finger instead to point the camera and it was perfect. I guess Sacred 2 has its own ways to get me back to it, since I was using some of my time to fool around with Hellgate London and soccer matches as well

[Dragon Brother 619]

Well I hope you can get over it pretty quickly, I'm sure it will be tough to watch someone else doing your job if you still play in the team in another position. It shouldnt be too bad though right? Ive broken my fingers a time or three (even got kicked once too...) and its usually a 4 week wait at most to be back to full capacity. Less, if you're willing to play with a little pain.

[Dobri 55]

Oh I said, I'm ready for a match in the weekend - I just warned them to be careful with me. Fractured finger can easily worsen its condition provided a strong enough of a force is applied to it. I only hope I can get the swelling to subside till 15.05. It's the day of our first match. If the finger feels ok, I'll put some good gloves, and I'm putting myself between the goal posts.

 

Dobri the goalkeeper doesn't give up Nor he lets a ball between the posts just like that

[gogoblender 3,070]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee take it easy with the hands and fingers. For me, those things are gold. We've had Schot for a while now limping around everywhere ( @ SChot) cuz of his own injuries.

 

Yee all get better for Summah... sun is a coming!

 

 

gogo

[Dobri 55]

You may want to come visit Bulgaria for the summer. We have beach, sun, I have a spare room for guests

[chattius 2,527]

Goalies, I was one too before my eye injury at army. Half of the sever injuries are normally done by your teammates. We live near a small village which has just 2 sport clubs: soccer or shooting. Our oldest daughter is close to 1,90 metres and so she uses to play goalie. Can't count the injuries she got because she used to play in a mixed team till she was 14.

 

Main injury is normally if the ball hits just the finger tips and the fingers being bended back. You have the new kind of goalie gloves? 'X-ray' picture of one to see how they are inside:

They have a inner skeleton which prevents that the fingers are bended back.

 

My wife is a doctor and she read in a medical book that constant hits on a growing breast can cause breast cancer, so our daughter had to wear breast protectors. Mixed team , being 12 when she started to wear them, she had to hear jokes like: What do you want to protect, there is nothing....

 

If the hand is in a cast because of an injury: using a trackball is sometimes easier than using a mouse. Perhaps we handicapped dinosaurs should start a special guide group:

Builds you can play while handicapped, or with just one finger, or while holding a baby to calm it down-but don't want to leave the computer, ....

 

Underwater Rugby is way saver than soccer if you are getting old

[Dragon Brother 619]

Underwater Rugby is way saver than soccer if you are getting old

 

Yeah...the only injuries involve water inhalation or something huh? Safe...

[chattius 2,527]

Yes, the real risc is that you play UWR in a mixed team and a girl looses her suit and some idiot opens his mouth 4 metres below surface to say 'Whow!'.

Movements are slowed below water. A bullet can't kill once you are 2 metres away, same is for kicks, punches and such, they are slowed down that much that they do no harm. No injuries from jumping, falling, ....

 

Back to soccer:

Ask Dobri how many times he was underrun while catching a high ball. You come down hard and have no free hands to control falling. Or how many times you had a ball safe but an enemy attacker couldn't stop sliding into you or failed to jump over you.

And the main disadvantage of a goalie in a small soccer club: You are normally the last entering the shower, because a goalie needs more time to get out of the protection stuff. So when I wanted to take a shower the nice teammates already used up all the hot water and it took half an hour for the boiler to heat up again.

 

The new gloves came after my active soccer time. Now I mainly coach a team of one of my daughters. The gloves are quite new and sadly not cheap. Costs are around 60 euro and more. If you play or train on red sand the fine sand on dirty balls will ruin the inside of gloves quickly so you need up to 4 gloves a year out of my experience. I was stitching pieces of towels to ruined gloves to recycle them. At rainy days the towel pieces gave a better grip.

[Dobri 55]

Chattius makes a strong point:

 

- Ask Dobri how many times he was underrun while catching a high ball:

A lot of times. I can' even count them. This is why I usually shout at my teammates when I'm on to take the ball, because I'm 1.87 m and it's very easy for a player to get under me when I jump for the ball. Sadly, this time the shout didn't work.

 

I'm giving you a link to see how it is. Just a link, because it looks kinda bad and some people may not enjoy the view.

http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/d...rev/Picture.jpg

 

- Or how many times you had a ball safe but an enemy attacker couldn't stop sliding into you or failed to jump over you:

That's something I HATE. Injuries happen very easily this way. A bad hit and you're out. Luckily enough, I haven't had a kick in the face yet, although some people came very close to it.

 

I'm going to take a look at those gloves. That inner skeleton may just provide the protection against people who are more interested in kicking my hands rather than the ball. But still... as we Bulgarians say - "It's like putting the hood on after the rain is gone". It's kinda late for me to think about this now, but I will certainly look onto this. That's the second finger I'm injuring without any of my fault whatsoever and I'm planning to enjoy soccer for quite a while (good thing about keepers is that 28 years of age is "young", cause they play till 40) without getting permanently damaged

 

The bad thing is that I'll probably have to assume the role of a substitute defender or striker for the upcoming match on May 15th. I don't see that finger I put on the picture above getting better in 8 days.

 

Chattius, I wish a lot of luck to my colleague then - your daughter. May she have a nice keeper career (as long as she wants) without injuries. I know what you meant by "fingers bent back". Shay Given from Manchester City had something similar - the ball hit his palm, bent it back and at the same time his shoulder hit the ground. the bent back hand + hard hit to the shoulder = major injury... He dislocated his shoulder. Awful.

Edited May 7, 2010 by Dobri

[chattius 2,527]

Speaking about goalies and injuries (edit and machester city). My daughter has a signed picture of the best goalie of all times and her personal hero in her room: Bernhard Trautmann.

I hope she will never get famous the same way he did.

 

Quote from wiki about the english cup finale

...Birmingham attacked strongly in the next ten minutes. In the 75th minute Trautmann, diving at an incoming ball, was knocked out in a collision with Birmingham's Peter Murphy in which he was hit in the neck by Murphy's right knee. No substitutes were permitted, so Trautmann, dazed and unsteady on his feet, carried on. For the remaining 15 minutes he defended his net, making a crucial interception to deny Murphy once more. Manchester City held on for the victory, and Trautmann was the hero of the final because of his spectacular saves in the last minutes of the match. His neck continued to cause him pain, and Prince Phillip commented on its crooked state as he gave Trautmann his winner's medal.[34] Trautmann attended that evening's post-match banquet despite being unable to move his head,[35] and went to bed expecting the injury to heal with rest. As the pain did not recede, the following day he went to St George's Hospital, where he was told he merely had a crick in his neck which would go away.[36] Three days later, he got a second opinion from a doctor at Manchester Royal Infirmary. An X-ray revealed he had dislocated five vertebrae in his neck, the second of which was cracked in two.[36][37] The third vertebra had wedged against the second, preventing further damage which could have cost Trautmann his life...

 

Winning a cup finale with a broken neck...

 

And when he stopped his carreer the goal poles were removed from the stadium in Manchester,no one would be good enough to defend them again.

 

When I did my 8 years at army an english soldier told me that it was Trautmann, as a former enemy, who stopped his father from hating all germans. The english soldier said that the english never understood why Trautmann was not allowed to play in the german team which won world championship in 1954. I kinda felt like an idiot, because I didn't know at all who Trautmann was. (No internet in this time, only 3 TV programs, so no english football) He ended his carreer before I was born.

 

When Queen Elisabeth gave him the Order of the British Empire for his work to better the german/english relations I knew his name and told my daughter who he is when watching the news. She played her second year as a goalie then. That was the time she started to throw balls after catching them rather than kicking. She wanted to be like Trautmann.

 

Edit: I bet if Trautmann would have been an american there would be a Hollywood movie already.

Edit2: Just found that there is a new autobiography of his life, might be a good birthday present for my daughter

Newpaper from April 2010

 

Edit3: Finally found an english page describing the new goalie gloves technology: http://www.reuschusa.com/tech.php

The page reads that orthotec also protects an already damaged hand.

 

Reusch does the new gloves allready for kids and women (longer finger compared to width of the hand). So my daughter has gloves with orthotec. The different technoligies used in the gloves are on the right side of the page. If I remember that I was using just garden gloves with a sewed towel part on the palm as a kid , technology explodes these times.

 

Exoskeleton for fingers, shock protectors, special material for optimal grip, (did I really just spit in my hands and rubbed them when I was young ?),...

Edited May 7, 2010 by chattius

[FrostElfGuard 9]

@chattius: How did your daughter get the signed picture? Did she get to meet him?

 

@main thread:

 

Wow! Sorry to hear about your hand Dobri! I hope things go well for you.

Way to go to be so physically active!

[chattius 2,527]

@FrostElfGuard

There was a soccer tournament and my daughter got a trophy as best goalie of her age from Nia Künzer (she lives in my birth town). Nia asked who would be her hero: Kahn or Lehmann, and my daughter said Trautmann. They had signed gloves from Kahn and Lehmann and planed to give them as an extra

Half a year later the organisator of the youth tournament sent a letter with the picture. Trautmann has a youth camp at Berlin and the organisator seems to sponsor that too. My daughter never met him.

 

@Dobri

The link in Post 12 Edit3 claims that the gloves also helps if the hand is already injured.

[Bondbug 32]

@Chattius "Winning a cup finale with a broken neck..." I remember Bert Trautmann, and Gordon Banks. Glad to see Trautmann is still about.

 

OK ... so what's your problem Dobri. Wrap yourself up in adhesive bandages, head to foot like a mummy, like all these professional rugby players here (not underwater except in inclement weather) and get on with it. The opposition will be so terrified they will only use the other goal.

 

Sympathy only makes people sorry for themselves ... they say.

Edited May 9, 2010 by Bondbug

[Dobri 55]

You are right - and I hate self-pity. It leads to being overprotective, it leads to depressions, it leads to psychological trauma and whatnot. This is why I went to the next training. I played a defender, trying to keep my hand away from the ball at all times. Since the orthopedic gloves were not an option (no way to get them easily), I tried to add some more protection and went for it.

 

Here's to being responsible and self-sacrificial. Now the swelling is even bigger and the crack in my finger bone is even larger If it wasn't so laughable, I'd be furious.

[Bondbug 32]

Ah! So much for that method. Perhaps you could consult the specialists at a local professonal foot or rugby club!

 

For what it is worth I once had problems with a torn petella, little hook in the front of the knee. I played for a cricket team in Scotland which was in desperate straits. I was one of the two main bowlers. Used to strap up the knee every week and bowl till I could hardly walk then retire to the 'outfield' for the rest of the innings. Took a year and a half.

 

Take the rest cure ... it is quicker.

 

Mind you ... we did win our first match for a year or two during that period.

 

PS They say comfrey tea is good for bones, but what the blazes is comfrey in Bulgarian?

Edited May 10, 2010 by Bondbug

[chattius 2,527]

When my younger sister was 8 she played left forward in a mixed soccer team. She was a very fast runner (she still holds the record for 200 metres running in our district for more than 20 years). Defenders tried to stop her 2 times while she stormed along the left outer line. She crashed hard 2 times but always jumped up again and continued running and made a goal. She was running to our family to be celebrated and was waving when suddenly her left underarm made crazy moves. Both bones pre-broken at falling but moved apart not before winking. She started whining when the coach took her out of the game because of the broken arm. She still says today that she whined because she thought it was unfair because she really played good this day. She felt the pain first time 2 minutes after she was out, but not before.

 

I remembered this when I watched champions league this year and Fabregas shot a penalty breaking his leg, which was probably pre-broken by the foul before.

 

2 years back our second daughter was vaulting, even she knew that she wasn't allowed to do it allone. So when she felt from the horse she was not telling anyone. 6 days later she was late for school and stormed down the staircase and tried to grap her schoolbag while running. Then she suddenly cried holding her arm. It was swollen and hurt when touching it. She nearly fainted out when I tried to move it a bit. Hearing some nasty sounds from the arm I thought sh*t, that always happens when my wife is at work (she's a doc). I brought her to kid's hospital and they found out that the bones were broken already for around a week. One bone was broken again but the other partly grew together in a wrong way. It had to be broken again to fix it properly.

 

My uncle played soccer starting when he was 5 and still plays it today with 57! He never had any injury on a soccerfield, except one: when he was 38 his son (aged 5) was fouled and whining. He wanted to carry him from the field and dislocated a shoulder when trying to pick his son up.

 

Injuries are often just random and out of my experience they happen more often if you are afraid to be injured.

[Rusto 0]

In high school I used to play for the district Rugby team, one day during warmup I slid on my front to gather the ball, and the grass tore the skin from my knee. Prior to this I was unbeatable in the 100m, and very hard to stop on the pitch. I never was able to get back to the same level in either, due to the location of the injury I wasnt able to bend my knee for months, lost all strength in it. I could be really bitter about it, but I always enjoyed motorbikes and downhill mtbing much more anyway =)

 

The funny thing about my two wheeled pursuits is, I tend to scare myself more by thinking about it when I'm not doing it, than when I actually am doing it and not thinking about it. haha

[Dobri 55]

Bondbug, I easily found the comfrey. In Bulgarian it has a peculiar name - something along the lines of "mender" and "healer" - the idea being that is helps something heal on its own. So I'm going to check it out. I like tea, so it can't hurt.

 

The good news is, I won't be leaving the team a man down. The rules have been changed to allow 2 subs before the team has started the fan tournament, so I can be subbed for someone else without hurting the team. The team's problem is that they're losing a captain, but they're gaining a coach instead. Poor guys

 

Chattius, you have one amazing sister, my friend.

Edited May 10, 2010 by Dobri

[Bondbug 32]

Chattius, you have one amazing sister, my friend.

 

Chattius seems to have one amazing life.

 

Must say this thread and Chattius vehicles are much more interesting than the bl**dy GB elections.

 

So when is this next match Dobri?

Edited May 11, 2010 by Bondbug

[Spyrus 0]

Hope all work good for you Dobri, health matters are the most important.

[Dobri 55]

Well, the matches are on 15th and 16th. After that, in june there is another fan cup. If my finger has healed, I'm gonna lead the team there as well

[Bondbug 32]

Go for it! You have all summer for the hospital treatment! (I hope I am joking )

 

15th AND 16th Ooooh heck. That's this coming weekend. I will not uncross my fingers till next Monday, though that could cause some difficulties from time to time ....... Good luck.

Edited May 11, 2010 by Bondbug

[chattius 2,527]

Hand any better now?

 

My daughter managed to get a red card when playing in a mixed soccer team at wednesday. She was jumping to catch a high ball at a corner and an offense player of the other team too. In her words his hands moved to places of her body where they didn't should be at a normal jump to reach the ball with the head. She gave him a slap in the face to the right when she noticed that he was laughing and doing gestures to a team-mate. Slap in the face of the teammate of the boy and a third slap to another boy and then she asked if anyone else considered this a good joke. 2 seconds later she got a red card.

 

The referee said he was not seeing anything before the slap into the face and so the boys got no cards. I wasn't at the game, but I trust my daughter. She is still really angry and says if the boys would not say sorry her revenge would be terrible, reading the law and not the rule book of soccer. She said that the 8 weeks not allowed to play penalty would not hurt much because it was the last game before summer breaks. But if she refuses to accept the penalty then she could delay a hearing till after the summer breaks. Her 8 weeks would be over already but a possible penalty for the boys would start at the hearing. So they wouldn't be able to play the first 6 qualifying matches in the next season.

 

Sunday her school class leaves for 2 weeks at Avignon/France and she said if she hears no sorry till tomorrow she wouldn't accept the penalty. That is the disadvantage of living country-side. Forced to play mixed teams because no girls-only teams.