Life Leech, how does it work?

[podgie_bear 184]

I wonder if anyone can help me with a little problem that I seem to be having. I have been documenting the progress of my build on this forum (Podgie the Bearbarian - the Invisble Mass Killer), and as I am doing so I have been keeping a closer watch than usual on what is happening. I usually just play it and watch the corpses pile up! As a result of that careful watching I have realised that the +XX life leach items that I have socketed do not seem to be working.

 

When I socketed similar items into a Dryad's blowpipe, it was easy to see that they worked because every time I shot anything, golden lines of life leach connected to my character. When I socketed the items into my Shadow Warrior's weapon, I assumed that the +LL would apply to his Skeleton Fortification attack. No such luck! Not only were there no such lines, when I decloaked and allowed myself to be hit so that I could see if the +LL raised my health back up, it didn't.

 

OK I thought, perhaps it will only apply to melee hits since they are socketed into the weapon, so I had them unsocketed and wore them as the rings and amulets that they were, but it made no difference. Can it be that +LL will not apply to spells? Is it just with Skeleton Fortification? Or is there something that I do not know about that applies in this case?

[Ryanrocker 200]

Hey there podgie, LL only works with weapon attacks or weapon CAs. Spectral Hand will work with LL if your using that in your build

[podgie_bear 184]

Oh poo! This build only uses Skeleton Fortification, that is the whole point of the build. I suppose that I will just have to manage without LL then.

 

Does that apply to +LL% as well? And does the same apply to spells for the other characters as well?

Edited July 30, 2010 by podgie_bear

[essjayehm 58]

Oh poo! This build only uses Skeleton Fortification, that is the whole point of the build. I suppose that I will just have to manage without LL then.

 

Does that apply to +LL% as well?

 

Sorry to say, but yes. Skellie Fort is a "nonweapon" Combat Art, for the mods that matter if a CA is weapon-based or not.

[Dragon Brother 619]

If you want, the shadow warrior won't decloak if you attack with a %LL shuriken so you can chuck him one of them and he can attack normally, get the leech as well as casting his Combat Arts, plus, it will give you some better damage vs bosses.

[podgie_bear 184]

Yes, but how does +LL and +LL% effect other spells, such as High Elf's Cobalt Strike, Dryad's Viperish Disease, Seraphim's Radiant Pillar, or Inquisitor's Clustering Maelstrom? Are they all incapable of life leach as well?

[Ryanrocker 200]

Yes, but how does +LL and +LL% effect other spells, such as High Elf's Cobalt Strike, Dryad's Viperish Disease, Seraphim's Radiant Pillar, or Inquisitor's Clustering Maelstrom? Are they all incapable of life leach as well?

 

Yup Only CAs that are based off weapon damage (Archangel's Wrath, Pelting Strikes, Soul Hammer, Assailing Sommersault, Darting Assault, Ravaged Impact, Frenzied Rampage, Demonic Blow, Scything Sweep, Spectral Hand, Magic Coup, Callous Execution, Ruthless Mutilation, Dedicated Blow, Battle Extension, and Deathly Spears) If I forgot one forgive me

Edited July 31, 2010 by ryanrocker1217

[Spunky 16]

If I'm not completely wrong here you dont get LL with Deathly Spears.

[Ryanrocker 200]

If I'm not completely wrong here you dont get LL with Deathly Spears.

 

Yup, your right on that one. Just tested on my LF build and its a no go XD

[gogoblender 3,072]

I just saw your work on the Wiki ryan with the writeup about leech and where to get it via bargaining. It's a very good idea and has utility for what is probably the biggest damage doer in the game.

 

Good job

 

 

gogo

[Llama8 8]

All characters will have (at least) one CA that can be modded for +xx life leech (with the exception of the seraphim apparently):

 

Levin Array

Dragon Berserk

Frenzied Rampage

Jolting touch

Demonic Blow

Magic Coup

Callous Execution

Ruthless Mutilation

Dragon Berserk

[dreeft 9]

Veiled SW + Frenzied Rampage + dual Kal'durs

 

*ponders*

[Llama8 8]

Veiled SW + Frenzied Rampage + dual Kal'durs

 

*ponders*

 

Using FR with a melee weapon would un-Veil you, but it would be useful to get into the middle of a mob without being harmed.

[Dragon Brother 619]

Veiled SW + Frenzied Rampage + dual Kal'durs

 

*ponders*

 

Using FR with a melee weapon would un-Veil you, but it would be useful to get into the middle of a mob without being harmed.

 

Actually, no it wont. My veiled SW can spam FR til the cows come home and doesnt uncloak.

[Dobster 39]

Right click attacks won't un-veil you, only left click attacks

[podgie_bear 184]

Right click attacks won't un-veil you, only left click attacks

 

Unless of course your detection rate is not up to 100% yet, in which case there is still a chance that you can be un-veiled even with right click attacks.