Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Hello dear community and greetings from Germany, maybe some of you could help me. As you can see, my plan is to 3d-print some models from Sacred but I struggle to get these cursed models. I got some help from Thorium & Zerisius but I'm stuck. I got the PakExtractor, but it doesn't open by doubleclick. So I linked the models.pak-file with the programm and it opened but looked broken (see image below). I tried to use it and got files named "0001.40" and "0002.40" and so on. What I need for printing are *.stl or *.obj-files. other programs such as pakexplorer won't run either. I tried compatibility modes, but it didn't get better. Later I managed to get some *.grn-files but couldn't convert them. My google-search lead to a dead end. All posts were so old, that the links to some tools are no longer available. So I hope for your help. I'm not asking for the ready to use models, just for the way and the tools to get them. Maybe it's helpful for you, that I use a Win10 64bit OS 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Inspired 37 Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) Hey Ragnar. Use this tool to get GRN models from the models.pak. Then follow this excellent tutorial by @RuDDicK to import GRN models into 3DS Max. Once you get the models into 3DS Max, you can export them as OBJ. You can also import and apply animations the same way to add some personality to the characters you want to print. If you don't have access to 3DS Max, there's also another way to convert GRN to OBJ but it's reeeeally convoluted and it doesn't preserve skeletons so you won't be able to apply animations. So I would definitely recommend RuDDick's method. But let me know if you want me to explain the second method as well. Edited September 5, 2020 by Inspired 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post RuDDicK 133 Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Ragnar1989 said: Hello dear community and greetings from Germany, maybe some of you could help me. As you can see, my plan is to 3d-print some models from Sacred but I struggle to get these cursed models. I got some help from Thorium & Zerisius but I'm stuck. I got the PakExtractor, but it doesn't open by doubleclick. So I linked the models.pak-file with the programm and it opened but looked broken (see image below). I tried to use it and got files named "0001.40" and "0002.40" and so on. What I need for printing are *.stl or *.obj-files. other programs such as pakexplorer won't run either. I tried compatibility modes, but it didn't get better. Later I managed to get some *.grn-files but couldn't convert them. My google-search lead to a dead end. All posts were so old, that the links to some tools are no longer available. So I hope for your help. I'm not asking for the ready to use models, just for the way and the tools to get them. Maybe it's helpful for you, that I use a Win10 64bit OS What 3d models do you need 1 1 Link to comment
Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 Thank you for your answer. @Inspired Maybe I'm a little bit retarded, but the programs gr2_viewer.exe & SacredMdlExtr.exe won't start by doubleclick either. Never had this problem with any other program. Okay, then the other way, linking the .pak-file with the program. As you see below, the directories should fit. But I get the message "No valid models found! (Version 3)". I feel realy dumb about this @RuDDicK I wanted to start with the 8 main characters and maybe the rune master. Link to comment
Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 just forgot the pic Link to comment
Popular Post Inspired 37 Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) @Ragnar1989 that's strange. Does it throw any error? Try to download the tool from this link then. If it still won't launch, right click on the exe and run it as administrator. Another option is to try and launch the exe from CMD. Reloading the PC might also be worth a try, I guess. The pic you linked doesn't show up but based on your description it seems that you're dragging the pak file to the tool exe? If that's what you're doing, it won't work unfortunately because the tool requires the path to the game folder and the path to the Granny Viewer exe. Here's a brief video to give you an idea on how it's supposed to work. Edited September 6, 2020 by Inspired 1 1 Link to comment
Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 Oh, now I understand my mistake. I took the pak-directory, doh. Oh man it even says "sacred directory" Not pak *facepalm* XD All in all it looks just like in your Video. I'll give it a next try. Now that I sleept a night over it 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 6, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2020 YEAH it worked 1 1 Link to comment
Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 18 hours ago, Inspired said: @RuDDicK If you don't have access to 3DS Max, there's also another way to convert GRN to OBJ but it's reeeeally convoluted and it doesn't preserve skeletons so you won't be able to apply animations. So I would definitely recommend RuDDick's method. But let me know if you want me to explain the second method as well. I tried to get a free trail of 3ds nur there are just education-versions and you have to prove that you are a student, that times are over and I don't know someone who could signin for me. I'd Like to know the convoluted was Link to comment
Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 way, Not was. Link to comment
Popular Post Inspired 37 Posted September 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Ragnar1989 said: I tried to get a free trail of 3ds nur there are just education-versions and you have to prove that you are a student, that times are over and I don't know someone who could signin for me. I'd Like to know the convoluted was Actually I've just remembered that there's yet another way to convert GRN to OBJ, a much less convoluted one. It mangles UV maps though but I don't think you need them for 3D printing anyway? So you should be good. First, you'll need to convert GRN to GR2 using the method explained here (scroll down to the "Granny 1 format" section at the bottom of the page). Then convert the resulting GR2 file to OBJ using this tool (it works through the command line, check the readme file for an example of usage). That should be it. Like I said, this method mangles UV maps and doesn't preserve skeletons but meshes should be fine. 2 Link to comment
Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 Hey thanks, I tried it and managed to get the *.gr2-File :-D But the evegr2toobj.exe wouldn't start :-( just the cmd-Window pops up and closes immediately. And I didn't understand the readme.txt neither. Sorry for me beeing so dumb Link to comment
Inspired 37 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Ragnar1989 said: Hey thanks, I tried it and managed to get the *.gr2-File :-D But the evegr2toobj.exe wouldn't start :-( just the cmd-Window pops up and closes immediately. And I didn't understand the readme.txt neither. Sorry for me beeing so dumb No worries, that's fine. Like I said, the tool works through the command line, which means that you'll need to manually type in the commands in CMD. Hopefully this video will help you figure it out. 1 Link to comment
Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 oh... okay, thank you. I think now I get it 1 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,070 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 4:00 PM, Ragnar1989 said: Hello dear community and greetings from Germany, maybe some of you could help me. As you can see, my plan is to 3d-print some models from Sacred but I struggle to get these cursed models. I got some help from Thorium & Zerisius but I'm stuck. I got the PakExtractor, but it doesn't open by doubleclick. So I linked the models.pak-file with the programm and it opened but looked broken (see image below). I tried to use it and got files named "0001.40" and "0002.40" and so on. What I need for printing are *.stl or *.obj-files. other programs such as pakexplorer won't run either. I tried compatibility modes, but it didn't get better. Later I managed to get some *.grn-files but couldn't convert them. My google-search lead to a dead end. All posts were so old, that the links to some tools are no longer available. So I hope for your help. I'm not asking for the ready to use models, just for the way and the tools to get them. Maybe it's helpful for you, that I use a Win10 64bit OS wow, Ragnar what a thoughtful and detailed first post to place here in the forum. It's no wonder that that this game's still got juice... go Sacred! And welcome to DarkMatters Ragnar! gogo 1 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,070 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Inspired said: No worries, that's fine. Like I said, the tool works through the command line, which means that you'll need to manually type in the commands in CMD. Hopefully this video will help you figure it out. Thanks Inspired and Ruddick @RuDDicK for putting so much work into helping out the community with this topic... u really nailed this... bravo friend! gogo Edited September 8, 2020 by gogoblender 1 Link to comment
Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Thank you all :-D sorted the files and tried to convert the wizard.grn. I opend it with your recommended granny-viewer, got the ViewerConvertTemp.gr2, renamed it and startet the cmd. After start there were just the gloves of the Wizard. The cmd looks like this Link to comment
Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 By the way, RuDDik send me the magician. I needed to edit it in Blender and supportet it in the printerprogram. I just startet the printer. He should be finished in about 7,5h. Hope I didn't make any mistakes. I'm very excited 1 Link to comment
Inspired 37 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, Ragnar1989 said: Thank you all :-D sorted the files and tried to convert the wizard.grn. I opend it with your recommended granny-viewer, got the ViewerConvertTemp.gr2, renamed it and startet the cmd. After start there were just the gloves of the Wizard. The cmd looks like this Yes, I've just tried converting the wizard with this method and I'm getting the same result. Guess some models just won't work this way. Alright, let's try another method then. You'll have to follow 3 steps with this one: 1. Convert GRN to GR2 the same way you did for evegr2toobj. 2. Download this tool, unpack it and drag and drop your GR2 model onto grnreader98.exe. Several questions should pop up. Choose "no" at the first one and "yes" at all the others. If it throws an error about triangles' indices not starting at zero, just ignore it and click "ok". When the conversion is finished, the tool will give you an SMD file. 3. Download this tool and use it to convert the SMD file from the previous step to OBJ. This tool works through the command line like evegr2toobj so you'll need to type in the command in CMD. Here's an example of a command to use: assimpd export wizard.smd wizard.obj Hopefully this will do the trick. Link to comment
Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 Okay, I'm glad, that it istn't my lack of skill I tryed it. The SMD-convert was successfull, but the assimpd gives back an error :-( It says "the application couldn't start correctly (0xc000007b). Click "OK" to close the application." I also did erase the ".gr2"-part, same result But I have good news about the print. It worked I layed him back on the support so you can get an idea how it looks Here you see him in all its glory The close up was a bit tricky. You see these little steps? This is the layer height of 0,03mm. The mage has a height of 50mm 1 Link to comment
Inspired 37 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Ragnar1989 said: I tryed it. The SMD-convert was successfull, but the assimpd gives back an error :-( It says "the application couldn't start correctly (0xc000007b). Click "OK" to close the application." I also did erase the ".gr2"-part, same result Wow, Ragnar, you seem to be really unlucky with this stuff haha Well, I think what's happening here is something like this. I had to build assimp myself from the source code but since I'm not a programmer I guess I just might have not done it correctly. It works for me but it probably depends on some libraries that are present on my PC and are absent on yours. The only solution I can think of at this point is for you to download Microsoft Visual Studio (Community Edition is free, that's what you need) and install the same configuration that I have here. This is kind of an ugly solution since you'll have to download several gigabytes of software and libraries that you don't need and the worst thing is that it might not even work but, like I said, I'm not a programmer so this is the only thing I can think of. It it doesn't work, then I'm out of ideas, sorry. On a side note, that Battle Mage looks cool! Do you plan to paint it? 1 Link to comment
Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) Thank you :D yes I'm very unlucky XD I will download it after work. My shift starts soon. I don't think that I'm painting him. My painting-skill is nearly as high as my skill to get these damn models but it's okay. I like him this way By the way, I don't know if I have enough time and patience. My wife and I are about to move from our flat to the house we recently bought Edited September 9, 2020 by Ragnar1989 Link to comment
Popular Post Ragnar1989 16 Posted September 10, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 On 9/9/2020 at 9:37 AM, Inspired said: Wow, Ragnar, you seem to be really unlucky with this stuff haha Well, I think what's happening here is something like this. I had to build assimp myself from the source code but since I'm not a programmer I guess I just might have not done it correctly. It works for me but it probably depends on some libraries that are present on my PC and are absent on yours. The only solution I can think of at this point is for you to download Microsoft Visual Studio (Community Edition is free, that's what you need) and install the same configuration that I have here. This is kind of an ugly solution since you'll have to download several gigabytes of software and libraries that you don't need and the worst thing is that it might not even work but, like I said, I'm not a programmer so this is the only thing I can think of. It it doesn't work, then I'm out of ideas, sorry. On a side note, that Battle Mage looks cool! Do you plan to paint it? You sir, are a true genius it worked :-D only thing is, that the wizard stands upside down, but that's not a problem 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Inspired 37 Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Ragnar1989 said: You sir, are a true genius it worked :-D only thing is, that the wizard stands upside down, but that's not a problem Haha, glad it finally worked out! 2 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,070 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 15 hours ago, Ragnar1989 said: You sir, are a true genius it worked :-D only thing is, that the wizard stands upside down, but that's not a problem 14 hours ago, Inspired said: Haha, glad it finally worked out! Loved the creative work through Brilliant! gogo p.s. yah...even the upside down magician 1 Link to comment
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