siddham 19 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I recently clashed with a character on the Steam forums who insists that Sacred 2 will not run on modern machines or operating systems; meaning anything after XP I think. I think he wants the game removed from Steam; or a warning placed on the store page What is the experience of the vets on this forum? Personally I run the game on an i3 with W7 64Bit and it has never run better Prior to this I had trouble running it - very bad stuttering, especially in towns How about Sacred 2 on W8 and W10? Link to comment
Popular Post Androdion 884 Posted September 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2016 I believe it runs fine in Win 8, not so sure about Win 10 but someone asked about it some time ago I believe?! I too run the game on Win 7 x64 and I have no issues regarding the OS, though I did have to employ some compatibility tricks. But, you know, this game and many others from that time weren't properly built with 64-bit systems in mind (nor Win 7 for that matter) and most of them still work so no problem there. Hell, I can play games from twelve years ago on Win 7, games that were built for Win XP! How come Sacred 2 shouldn't work? Tell that guy that if he can't get the game running then all he needs to do is come in here and ask for help. This is the game's official forum right?! 4 Link to comment
Popular Post Hooyaah 2,823 Posted September 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2016 I agree with Androdion, Sacred 2 should run well on modern machines. I haven't tried it on Windows 10, yet I haven't heard anyone complaining that it would not. There is a compatibility mode in Windows 7 and likely in Win. 10 too; you simply select the option that the program ran in previous versions, specifically check "Windows XP Service pack 3." Also, one should always, download the Community Patch 150 as it fixes lots of bugs. It's free, so why not? Additionally, one should update Microsoft Net Framework and ones GPU driver. As Androdion mentioned, one may visit here and ask queries of the staff and members. I am unaware of anyone who has not had their compatibility/run issues solved in the forum. The advice here is gratis too, so why not ask? The game is a steal at the price it's vending for these days. Also, with all the Mods the game has so many options that many games could be enthralled with the game for some many years. So, go for the gold, Sacred 2 Gold, that is! 2 Link to comment
Popular Post lujate 578 Posted September 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2016 I run the GOG version of Sacred 2 Gold on Win10, and I've never had any problems. 3 Link to comment
Popular Post podgie_bear 184 Posted September 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2016 I'm running Win95 games on my Win7 64bit laptop with no problems and only ever had one problem with Sacred 2 but that was with the Securom DRM not the game itself. 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Dorimil 224 Posted September 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2016 I could imagine, that the basic game may be causes problems on Win 10 as it also causes a lot of trouble with Win 7/8. But the gold Version should run fine, also incl. the Community Patch. last time I tried was with Win 7 64 bit wothout any problems. should re-install the game now and try with Win 10....ähm...if anybody here could give me one hour of his lifetime... 2 Link to comment
siddham 19 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 I'm running Win95 games on my Win7 64bit laptop with no problems and only ever had one problem with Sacred 2 but that was with the Securom DRM not the game itself. This is why I chose W7 64Bit when I built my current rig last Christmas Link to comment
Popular Post Logen Schok 7 Posted September 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2016 I run the game on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, never had an issue with the game and I'm pretty sure it's ridiculous to even say things like that. Steam sells the Gold version of the game only, so it's not the basic version of Sacred 2.... .... 2 Link to comment
Popular Post desm 329 Posted September 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2016 Personnaly I'm on Windows 7 pro 64bits and I've never managed to get Sacred 2 Gold (GoG version or steam) to work properly whatever I did (I've almost tried all I think); it keeps crashing (Sacred2.exe has ceased to function....), like Androdion said, sometimes after 5 minutes, sometimes 2, I think I can't get more thyan 30 minutes without a crash, very boring, while my pc runs like a charm for other games or whatever. I've even been burnt by a french forumer for having advised him to instal CM patch: he said his game was always crashing after the instal while it worked properly before, so... 2 Link to comment
siddham 19 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 Personnaly I'm on Windows 7 pro 64bits and I've never managed to get Sacred 2 Gold (GoG version or steam) to work properly whatever I did (I've almost tried all I think); it keeps crashing (Sacred2.exe has ceased to function....), like Androdion said, sometimes after 5 minutes, sometimes 2, I think I can't get more thyan 30 minutes without a crash, very boring, while my pc runs like a charm for other games or whatever. I've even been burnt by a french forumer for having advised him to instal CM patch: he said his game was always crashing after the instal while it worked properly before, so... Very odd; I wonder why that is? Do you use the CM patch? Link to comment
DaveO 88 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I've had crash problems above XP as well. I've been staying with a dual-boot configuration for my machine. In my opinion, I believe the graphics card could be contributing to crashes if it's not an nVidia card. 1 Link to comment
Popular Post lujate 578 Posted September 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2016 I've had crash problems above XP as well. I've been staying with a dual-boot configuration for my machine. In my opinion, I believe the graphics card could be contributing to crashes if it's not an nVidia card. Interesting, I've always ran Sacred 2 on nvidia cards and I've never had any serious problems. 2 Link to comment
podgie_bear 184 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I've had crash problems above XP as well. I've been staying with a dual-boot configuration for my machine. In my opinion, I believe the graphics card could be contributing to crashes if it's not an nVidia card. Strange, all my machines have been Intel integrated graphics and never had a problem with the game and I run it in Win7 mode not compatibility mode. 1 Link to comment
siddham 19 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 I always use Nvidia; and I dont use compatibility mode on W7 Link to comment
Androdion 884 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Personnaly I'm on Windows 7 pro 64bits and I've never managed to get Sacred 2 Gold (GoG version or steam) to work properly whatever I did (I've almost tried all I think); it keeps crashing (Sacred2.exe has ceased to function....), like Androdion said, sometimes after 5 minutes, sometimes 2, I think I can't get more thyan 30 minutes without a crash, very boring, while my pc runs like a charm for other games or whatever. I've even been burnt by a french forumer for having advised him to instal CM patch: he said his game was always crashing after the instal while it worked properly before, so... Sorry to hear that. I suppose you must've tried everything that you could in order to minimize that right?! If not I'll pitch in. 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Flix 5,116 Posted September 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2016 I've had minimal crashing, but it's always in the same few places. Grunwald Forest, Field of Eternal Pain, and one or two other spots. This is across multiple gaming rigs and OS's. I think there are some spots that are just kind of glitchy. That being said, that's pretty much the only crashing and freezing I've ever had, so I think I'm in the lucky bunch. My number 1 complaint is SLOWDOWN. I get it really bad in crowded cities. Now I have a good graphics card and lots of memory, so I think it might be a CPU bottleneck issue. Do other people get slowdown when they're running through crowded cities like Griffinborough? It's not a constant low framerate, it's a severe stuttering where the game hitches, then catches up back up to 60FPS, then back down to 15 and back up again. Like the game just can't produce everything in time. I don't think the CM Patch would have either a positive or a negative effect on overall performance or stability. Many severe bugs and errors were fixed, but nothing that was causing crashing or freezing AFAIK. That's just my 2 cents. 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Hooyaah 2,823 Posted September 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2016 I have occasional crashes, yet it's always after my character has traversed long distances across the map without exiting the game. This is likely because the game is attempting to store so much data regarding game progress. I too have occasional slowdowns in areas with a lot of activity and complex multi-material shaders working my machine to its limit. Also areas with high particle counts and volumetric fog (mist) such as waterfalls and even fountains cause a temporary lag especially when I zoom in to such an area too close. The game has so much detail and there is so much happening at one time that it can test the limits of some really beefy systems. I have found that Nvidia cards work best and the geniuses there keep making them better and quite durable as well. 2 Link to comment
Popular Post desm 329 Posted September 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2016 I suppose you must've tried everything that you could in order to minimize that right?! If not I'll pitch in. yes, I think I've tried everything (I used to run it flawlessly only on XP 32bits with the same hardware); I did everything mentionned in this thread http://darkmatters.org/forums/index.php?/topic/22823-sacred-2-gold-edition-freezes-after-50-mins-of-gameplay/&do=findComment&comment=6987687 exept putting memory management to 0 (I used different values) maybe I'll give it a try. Lowering graphic details, disabling Physx and all do nothing. The most unstable region for me is the Blood Forest (I can't do a step without a crash) but I've never experienced any stuttering problems in cities on the other hand. I think it's some sort of malediction: Sacred 2 was my most enjoyable game but never could properly play (I played a lot nevertheless on a server and saving often; all I can do). 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Androdion 884 Posted September 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2016 Sorry to hear that Desm. I too suffer from the occasional lag/slowdown/crash, but I believe that's due to the game engine not being properly optimised to be able to decode the entirety of the detail present. I mean, with an i7/GTX 960/12 GB Ram rig I shouldn't really have bottlenecks in the game and yet they happen. I can't tell you how Flix but after installing the CM Pacth the game started crashing less often than it would before. It probably has something to do with the refresh signal it sends to the game engine? I read something about that in the changelog. And like others have pointed some areas are more prone to crashing than others, Blood Forest is very problematic in that regard. Keep F7 handy boys, that's your best friend. 3 Link to comment
siddham 19 Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 @ Flix I always had a lot of slowdowns and stuttering in towns on my previous rigs; but no crashes. The slowdowns bothered me enough to put the game aside repeatedly with the intention to wait until I had a rig that could run it properly. It was disappointing, but it didn't move me to anti-Sacred raging like some. I came to the conclusion it was a CPU bottleneck due to the code not being well optimised. But that is just a best guess. I am not a programmer. Does anyone know, does the game code run single or multicore? I still had problems on my previous Core2Duo (2.4Ghz). Many older games are unable to use multicores, so how well they run depends on the speed of the individual cores Thus far on my current rig I have had no slowdowns or stuttering or crashes and I am having a blast with the game; finally able to get into it properly. 1 Link to comment
Popular Post podgie_bear 184 Posted September 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) @ Flix I always had a lot of slowdowns and stuttering in towns on my previous rigs; but no crashes. The slowdowns bothered me enough to put the game aside repeatedly with the intention to wait until I had a rig that could run it properly. It was disappointing, but it didn't move me to anti-Sacred raging like some. I came to the conclusion it was a CPU bottleneck due to the code not being well optimised. But that is just a best guess. I am not a programmer. Does anyone know, does the game code run single or multicore? I still had problems on my previous Core2Duo (2.4Ghz). Many older games are unable to use multicores, so how well they run depends on the speed of the individual cores Thus far on my current rig I have had no slowdowns or stuttering or crashes and I am having a blast with the game; finally able to get into it properly. Mine is a a quad core 2.13Ghz and I have no issues still. I think it is more down to individual machines and how they are set up than with game issues. I did notice an improvement in performance when I changed from Avast to AVG, so maybe what is running in the background is a problem? Edited September 22, 2016 by podgie_bear 2 Link to comment
Logen Schok 7 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I do believe the game utilizes two cores, but not more than that. Older processors are definitely a bottle-neck for this game, when Sacred 2 released, I'd wager it was just as difficult to run as Crysis was back in the day, especially with all the effects and PhysX too.It's strange to read others who have issues with the game, and although I've never gotten far, due to quest fatigue and exploring every nook and cranny possible, only Windows Vista played badly with Sacred 2 for me. I don't get many crashes at all, especially when I use modest settings on my rather legacy PC. Link to comment
Bondbug 32 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Slightly different problem perhaps. I have the game running well on a Windows 8 laptop, and it was running well in Windows 7 on a dual booting W7/XPPro PC. I mentioned elsewhere that at one stage it was refusing to open in W7 with the excuse that “The application has failed to start because d3dx9_36.dll was not found. Reinstalling ......may fix ....” I found that this item was installed but in the wrong place. moved it to the System 32 folder and all was well. But when I went back to run the game yesterday, it had reverted to the same refusal to open, same message as above. d3dx9_36.dll is installed in every System 32 on every partition I have. So, confident that Microsoft know all and that I could follow their advice with impunity (naive idiot) I uninstalled all the Sacred 2 installations from W7 and XPPro, and left GOG to reinstall the game overnight. Full of great expectations I clicked on "Launch Sacred 2 Gold", and no prizes for guessing what message I got. Has anyone else had this problem in Windows 7 ? The PC is all defragged , depolluted, checked for registry errors etc (various iObit programs) Link to comment
Androdion 884 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Have you tried running the repair console of your OS on boot? It seems like your system may be corrupt somehow and that could (or not) correct its mistakes. Otherwise I'd say do a clean reinstall of the OS because DLL/system32 folder errors are usually a bad sign. 1 Link to comment
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