gogoblender 3,444 Posted May 6, 2010 I don't get this..is there something I've missed? With all my socketed gear at level 149 I was getting about 11462 per turtle I killed with a mentor pot. Then I moved up to level 150 Blammo... disaster My precious crop of turtle soup targets now refuses to yield as much of their creamy goodness as before. Now I get only 10580...or a number close to that halp this poor blender understand what has happened... what happened to my experience? I didn't change my socketing, didn't change nothing...but from level 149 to 150 Blam.. drop in experience. Halp gogo
Spunky 17 Posted May 6, 2010 Yup, and it's getting worse by each level up. Worst I have seen is that when a Orc Champ went from 26K to 24K with 1 level gained...
gogoblender 3,444 Author Posted May 6, 2010 So it is getting smaller. What's changing... base experience values of monsters is actually shrinking? gogo
SolomonGrundy 1 Posted May 6, 2010 I don't get this..is there something I've missed? With all my socketed gear at level 149 I was getting about 11462 per turtle I killed with a mentor pot. Then I moved up to level 150 Blammo... disaster My precious crop of turtle soup targets now refuses to yield as much of their creamy goodness as before. Now I get only 10580...or a number close to that halp this poor blender understand what has happened... what happened to my experience? I didn't change my socketing, didn't change nothing...but from level 149 to 150 Blam.. drop in experience. Halp gogo did you check to see if you hit the area level cap?
Spunky 17 Posted May 6, 2010 So it is getting smaller. What's changing... base experience values of monsters is actually shrinking? gogo The decrease in XP gain starts when you are level 100, and decreases dramatically the higher you get.
Woody 24 Posted May 6, 2010 It's 'normal', gogo, unfortunatelly. Here at level 181, ennemies are capped to 180, I get 3.700 experience on an eye with a mentor potion and 79.9% experience bonus socketed... After a moment (lvl165-180), killing ennemies again and again is not the best solution for fast lvling..
locolagarto 18 Posted May 6, 2010 I have really seen this myself with my level 154 BFG ever since 150 though the experience has gotten crummy. I would need 3 or 4 on a server with my 102% bonus to XP per kill to get 10K from a turtle
gogoblender 3,444 Author Posted May 6, 2010 Well, so far I'm still leveling very quickly. However...I'm a little worried about level 180 to 200. Firstly, it's nice seeing that other peeps out there are in looking at these levels with the tough world that Ascaron threw at us with the expansion. A question Woody, at your level...how about with a full servers...what would the experience be...or is it still capped... nothing can be done to increase the experience? gogo
Woody 24 Posted May 6, 2010 Well, so far I'm still leveling very quickly. However...I'm a little worried about level 180 to 200. Firstly, it's nice seeing that other peeps out there are in looking at these levels with the tough world that Ascaron threw at us with the expansion. Don't worry gogo, now I can say... It's not really hard... it's just boring but at same time it's exciting to approach of the 2 0 0,hehe. A question Woody, at your level...how about with a full servers...what would the experience be...or is it still capped... nothing can be done to increase the experience? gogo I get 5.000 experience per eye with a mentor in a server with 4 players (including me).
gogoblender 3,444 Author Posted May 6, 2010 That's horrible. lol, eeeeeeeeeeeeeee... do you watch tv while you're levling? well, the 165 is closing in on home stretch... the last one is up and coming... *gulp* why am I all of a sudden scared gogo p.s. Question...is there a graph somewhere of how the experience drops over the 200 levels? Anyone figgered that out yet?
Dragon Brother 620 Posted May 7, 2010 From these lines in the balance.txt file: ExpLS100 = 985, ExpLS125 = 980, ExpLS150 = 975, ExpLS175 = 970 I think it decreases to 98.5% of max at level 100, 98% at level 125, 97.5% at level 150 and 97% at level 175...I think anyway
Furian67 15 Posted May 7, 2010 Great Job Dragon Brother. Just as I started reading this thread I knew there were numbers like the one you posted somewhere. I could see them in my head but no idea where they were. Think this is why alot of folk start doing the quest runs instead of bangin mobs. Need to find a good timely quest run that we can plot out and run over and overto get our Girlie to where we need her.
Slevin 11 Posted May 7, 2010 The decrease in XP gain starts when you are level 100, and decreases dramatically the higher you get. Exactly. Especially at level 101, 126, 151, 176 there is a higher decrease of experience than usual. 1
Furian67 15 Posted May 7, 2010 The decrease in XP gain starts when you are level 100, and decreases dramatically the higher you get. Exactly. Especially at level 101, 126, 151, 176 there is a higher decrease of experience than usual. From your experiance, what do you do after you hot 150? Grind mobs? Quest? Or a mix of both? What Quests work out to be the best for experience/time usage?
tapir 0 Posted May 7, 2010 From these lines in the balance.txt file: ExpLS100 = 985, ExpLS125 = 980, ExpLS150 = 975, ExpLS175 = 970 I think it decreases to 98.5% of max at level 100, 98% at level 125, 97.5% at level 150 and 97% at level 175...I think anyway I think it's calculated some other way. IIRC I had almost 10% drop from level 125 to 126. And gogo's numbers: 11462->11580: 7,7% decrease.
Dragon Brother 620 Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) From these lines in the balance.txt file: ExpLS100 = 985, ExpLS125 = 980, ExpLS150 = 975, ExpLS175 = 970 I think it decreases to 98.5% of max at level 100, 98% at level 125, 97.5% at level 150 and 97% at level 175...I think anyway I think it's calculated some other way. IIRC I had almost 10% drop from level 125 to 126. And gogo's numbers: 11462->11580: 7,7% decrease. ExpFac0 = 110, ExpFac1 = 200, ExpFac2 = 150, ExpFac3 = 40, ExpFac4PM = 1000, ExpFacAdjust = 200 Well there's also this in the same file...I ignored that because the other bit seemed like it gave a sensible answer, but maybe the different factors mentioned here and possibly others in the server could have effected it. Also, the penalty may be to the base experience or the experience after all bonuses from gear and stuff are factored in...but I really dont know) Edited May 7, 2010 by Dragon Brother
Slevin 11 Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) From your experiance, what do you do after you hot 150? Grind mobs? Quest? Or a mix of both? Quests only. Except of my fire high elf, that was faster with grinding in the jungle and in the south east of the swamp. What Quests work out to be the best for experience/time usage? Cursed forest main quest from the beginning to the 3rd monolith (dunno what its called in english). Then I get 10 times experience in about 8 minutes. Edited May 7, 2010 by Slevin
chattius 2,723 Posted May 7, 2010 0.985**25 = .685 0.980**25 = .603 Would be 12% at the level jump from 124 to 125. If the all 25 levels above 100 would use 0.98 instead 0.985 once reaching level 125. That is close to the reported value of around 10%.
Dragon Brother 620 Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) 0.985**25 = .6850.980**25 = .603 Would be 12% at the level jump from 124 to 125. If the all 25 levels above 100 would use 0.98 instead 0.985 once reaching level 125. That is close to the reported value of around 10%. Hmmm...I dont quite follow that to be honest...if you get base experience of 100 at level 124 which would become 98.5exp then at level 125 wouldnt you just get 98 experience if you just multiply by the value given? Edited May 7, 2010 by Dragon Brother
chattius 2,723 Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) At level 100 you get 10000 At level 101 you get 10000*0.985= 9850 At level 102 you get 9850*0.985 = 10000*(0.985)²= 9702 At level 103 you get 9702*0.985 = 10000*(0.985)³= 9557 .... The question is what will happen if you reach level 125 or 126. Will the 0,985 change to 0,98 for all the levels before? So is it 0.98524*0.98 or 0.98025 First would be if the jump would be just for one level, the second if the jump would be applied backwards for all former levels. The difference between the two calculations is like 12% which is closer to the reported 10% than the jump from 0,985 to 0,98. What makes the calculations even a bit more tricky: if you climb with level the enemies will too. Edited May 7, 2010 by chattius
FrostElfGuard 9 Posted May 7, 2010 Sacred1 was designed with an experience slow down. At the extreme (200 to 206 IIRC) levels, it incorporated World Discovered % as a further experience gathering slow down. The devs did this because levelling is considered part of the game... and reaching the topmost level was intended to be quite an achievement. That a decrease in experience gained is built-in to Sacred 2 does not surprise me at all. Makes getting to the top sweeter doesn't it?
Furian67 15 Posted May 7, 2010 'Slevin' Cursed forest main quest from the beginning to the 3rd monolith (dunno what its called in english). Then I get 10 times experience in about 8 minutes. Thanks Slevin, Thought it was something like this. Need to shop Block combat art, DoT all channel, Evade, block chance opponents all channel, and I think we can just do the Mad Dash from quest to quest.
gogoblender 3,444 Author Posted May 7, 2010 ugh why can't we all just play something dumb and easy like diablo gogo
Spunky 17 Posted May 7, 2010 Wouldn't call Diablo easier as the XP gain there when you are level 90+ is only 10-15 per kill...
Skylar Cb 0 Posted May 7, 2010 Sorry I'm a little late on this guys but I heard a comment from a friend about this XP ordeal! So here it goes...after level 120, your XP per kill goes down 2% every level until 200...I'm not 100% sure if he was right but I do very well trust this guy so let's just leave it at that...I also do apologize if this has already been covered in this topic and if I'm wrong but as far as I know I'm right (at least my friend is)!
