Ryanrocker 200 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 (edited) Hey there everyone, I've been doing some work regarding skill masteries. The project is not completed yet as there is still many possible combinations to figure out. Basically, what I've done, is outlined the best levels to pick your masteries based on a certain skill distribution style. I'll also say at which levels you will earn your masteries depending on your specific skill distribution style. It's easier to see what I'm talking about then to listen to me, so here's the info Best levels to pick Masteries in Most Builds Using the results from the following methods (+5, +4, +3, +2, +1), it is easy to see at which levels you should take masteries. Keep in mind that this only applies to most builds, because if you have a build that requires something like 5 points in spell resist to unlock armor lore, it will throw the levels off a tad. I recommend taking mastery skill picks at the following levels: Level 2- 1st Mastery Level 5- 2nd Mastery Level 12- 3rd Mastery Level 35- 4th Mastery If planning out a build, I would then fill in the levels in between these levels with skills that give an immediate benefit (ex. Concentration immediately gives you 2 buffs). The +5 Method This method of skill distribution involves getting a skill to mastery then completely stopping. I call it the +5 method because you are adding +5 to each skill after level 75. This skill distribution is useful for people who want to see the fruits of their character early, or adding points after mastery is useless. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 77 5th- Level 92 6th- Level 106 7th- Level 120 8th- Level 134 9th- Level 147 10th- Level 161 The +4 Method This method of skill distribution involves keeping 1 skill at level past mastery. I call it the +4 method because you are adding +4 to each skill after level 75 and the other point goes to the chosen skill. This skill distribution is useful for people who want to push a skill over mastery but want to master other skills in a good timeframe. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 78 5th- Level 95 6th- Level 113 7th- Level 131 8th- Level 148 9th- Level 166 10th- Level 184 The +3 Method This method of skill distribution involves keeping 2 skills at level past mastery. I call it the +3 method because (just going to stop saying this as it is pretty apparent ). This skill disbribution is useful for people who want to push 2 skills over mastery but want to keep mastering others in the process. Keep in mind you can only master 9 skills with this method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 79 5th- Level 102 6th- Level 126 7th- Level 150 8th- Level 173 9th- Level 197 The +2 Method This method of skill distribution involves keeping 3 skills at level past mastery. This skill distribution is useful for people who want to push 3 skills over mastery, but want to master a few other skills. Keep in mind that you can only master 7 skills with this method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 81 5th- Level 117 6th- Level 153 7th- Level 189 The +1 Method This method of skill distribution involves keeping 4 skills at level past mastery. This skill distribution is useful for people who really need to keep 4 skills at character level, but don't care about mastering any other skills. Keep in mind that you can only master 5 skills with this method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 81 5th- Level 154 These next few methods are common in some builds. They involve adding points to a skill focus up to level 21 or 31, because it is at these levels where you get the most bang for your buck. Stop for 21, +5 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 21, then stopping and continuing using the +5 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 82 5th- Level 96 6th- Level 110 7th- Level 124 8th- Level 138 9th- Level 151 10th- Level 165 Stop for 31, +5 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 31, then stopping and continuing using the +5 method. It would seem not to make sense that the levels you get for 31 are lower then for 21, but it is because of the rounding that they differ by a level. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 81 5th- Level 95 6th- Level 109 7th- Level 123 8th- Level 137 9th- Level 150 10th- Level 164 Stop for 31 and 21, +5 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 21 and adding points to another skill focus to level 31, then stopping and continuing using the +5 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 87 5th- Level 102 6th- Level 117 7th- Level 132 8th- Level 147 9th- Level 161 10th- Level 176 Stop for 21, +4 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 21, then stopping and continuing using the +4 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 83 5th- Level 101 6th- Level 120 7th- Level 138 8th- Level 157 9th- Level 175 10th- Level 194 Stop for 31, +4 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 31, then stopping and continuing using the +4 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 85 5th- Level 104 6th- Level 122 7th- Level 141 8th- Level 159 9th- Level 178 10th- Level 196 Stop for 31 and 21, +4 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 21 and adding points to another skill focus to level 31, then stopping and continuing using the +4 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. Keep in mind that you can only master 9 skills with this method. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 95 5th- Level 114 6th- Level 132 7th- Level 151 8th- Level 169 9th- Level 188 Stop for 21, +3 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 21, then stopping and continuing using the +3 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. Keep in mind that you can only master 8 skills with this method. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 85 5th- Level 110 6th- Level 135 7th- Level 159 8th- Level 184 Stop for 31, +3 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 31, then stopping and continuing using the +3 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. Keep in mind that you can only master 8 skills with this method. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 89 5th- Level 113 6th- Level 138 7th- Level 163 8th- Level 187 Stop for 31 and 21, +3 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 21 and adding points to another skill focus to level 31, then stopping and continuing using the +3 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. Keep in mind that you can only master 8 skills using this method. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 95 5th- Level 120 6th- Level 145 7th- Level 169 8th- Level 194 Stop for 21, +2 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 21, then stopping and continuing using the +2 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. Keep in mind that you can only master 6 skills with this method. Also, your next mastery would come at level 201, but because the maximum character level is 200 this is not possible. You can come extremely close to mastering a skill, but you won't be able to. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 90 5th- Level 127 6th- Level 164 Stop for 31, +2 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 31, then stopping and continuing using the +2 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. Keep in mind that you can only master 6 skills with this method. Also, your next mastery would come at level 206, but because the maximum character level is 200 this is not possible. You can come extremely close to mastering a skill, but you won't be able to. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 95 5th- Level 132 6th- Level 169 Stop for 31 and 21, +2 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 21 and adding points to another skill focus to level 31, then stopping and continuing using the +2 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. Keep in mind that you can only master 6 skills with this method. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 105 5th- Level 142 6th- Level 179 Stop for 21, +1 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 21, then stopping and continuing using the +1 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. Keep in mind that you can only master 5 skills with this method. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 90 5th- Level 164 Stop for 31, +1 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 31, then stopping and continuing using the +1 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. Keep in mind that you can only master 5 skills with this method. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 95 5th- Level 169 Stop for 31 and 21, +1 Method This method of skill distribution involves adding points to a skill focus to level 21 and adding points to another skill focus to level 31, then stopping and continuing using the +1 method. You will receive your masteries at these character levels. Keep in mind that you can only master 5 skills with this method. 1st, 2nd, 3rd- Level 75 4th- Level 105 5th- Level 179 My initial project goal has been completed. I would ask that people please request or mention a certain skill distribution that they use, that is not on the table so far, so that I can add some outside-the-box ones. Thanks I'd like to thank chattius, who got me excited about math in Ancaria, and loco for presenting the 31 and 21 methods. Thanks all for reading Edited August 5, 2010 by ryanrocker1217 Link to comment
Woody 24 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Excellent guide Ryan, I was looking for these numbers since a long time, good work ! Link to comment
Arperum 3 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 That is some amazingly good post! Link to comment
locolagarto 15 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Nice stuff! I need to study this more later when I get time. Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Great info ryan. Thank you! I recall many a time thinking about at what levels I could master skills. This will be a very handy reference guide. Link to comment
gogoblender 3,071 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Awesome work. You have a talent for taking the facts and making them friendly. Friendly facts are easily understood, and help make better players. I love the way you've taken the numbers and spun them out in different variations for mastery. This shows the range of creativity that our timing with skill placement offers in the game. You have done a very good job of illustrating this. Good job Ryan gogo Link to comment
Etherian 76 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Another great piece of work from our friend! Amazing job bro! I remain, Link to comment
dreeft 9 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Wow, nice work Ryan. Thanks! Link to comment
Dragon Brother 619 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Nice summary of what Im sure many of us have asked ourselves...when will we get our masteries! Link to comment
Etherian 76 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Added into favorites, as I'm sure I'll use this as a reference often! Thanks Again! I remain, Link to comment
FrostElfGuard 9 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I often wondered about this. Thanks for doing the work! Link to comment
Scleameth 19 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 When do you sleep? This is insane! Link to comment
Ryanrocker 200 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 Thanks for the positive feedback guys Project has been completed but, as I mentioned at the end in red: Please suggest some outside-the-box skill distributions so that I can add them to the list. Link to comment
essjayehm 58 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Good work, Ryan! There are so many possibilities that it is pretty hard to really flesh out and get a good handle on "what's right", but I think you've nailed it on the head with this thread. I did have some "weirdo" setups that performed just fine, but I've thrown most of them in the garbage with my last PS3 blowup. I'll work on remembering/figuring out what they were, but I did have a toon without any masteries at level 82... just to see how it would perform and it was just fine in Niob! but this is console version, so take that for what it's worth. Link to comment
essjayehm 58 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 I worked out my "old standard" for 3 masteries @ 75, and splitting the 64 leftover distributional points... depending on how many "secondary" skills I need to unlock. 3 skills @ 75 2 skills @ 31 (focuses, 31 points gives 6 mods) 1 skill @ 5 (for unlocking 1 secondary skill) 4 skills at 1 point. OR 3@75 1@31 1@22 (for 5 CA mod points if put on a lore or focus) 3@5 for unlocking more than 1 secondary skill, which I don't want to boost further than 5. 2@1 The weirdo setup that I did just to see if Niob @ level 82 was possible without any masteries Constitution 74 - this was a WIDD-style build, so I didn't master it to keep HP regen under control 3 focuses @ 55 (for mod points) 92 points leftover, I think I had: 20 Armour, 20 Tactics, 25 Toughness, 25 Combat Disc., 1 Concentration and 1 Dual Weild Current toon@ level 65: Will have 2 masteries planned at level 75, EP and Combat Discipline Tactics: 36 Hafted: 5 Astral Focus: 35 Astral Lore: 20 Armour: 5 Riding: 5 EP: 65 Combat Discipline: 65 Malevolent Champion Focus: 5 Death Warrior Focus: 5 I'm pretty sure I'll spread the points around between 65-75 rather than go for Tactics Mastery ASAP. I haven't tried farming Guardians yet, so it may change when I do Link to comment
Ryanrocker 200 Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 Thanks for the skill distributions Scott. I'll have to dissect them and add them to the guide...is there a character limit on a post The first one is gonna be massive Link to comment
essjayehm 58 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Thanks for the skill distributions Scott. I'll have to dissect them and add them to the guide...is there a character limit on a post The first one is gonna be massive The only thing I should've added with the last setup was that the toon doesn't have any acess to +allskills, so a spread out style was used rather than a focused one to keep all dimensions of the character in balance. As a general rule, on console, I stick to one of the first 2 I posted, since they get "the most bang for my buck" in my opinion. Link to comment
Ryanrocker 200 Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 The only thing I should've added with the last setup was that the toon doesn't have any acess to +allskills, so a spread out style was used rather than a focused one to keep all dimensions of the character in balance. As a general rule, on console, I stick to one of the first 2 I posted, since they get "the most bang for my buck" in my opinion. Cool, I'll mention that your last setup might be useful for characters that don't have access to much +allskills equip. Things like this help players in deciding how they want to allocate their points, so thanks for adding Link to comment
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