Schot 407 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Heyas. I'd like to document the skill bonus increases found on relics for more convenient shopping. After talking to Putrescine we found that +4 spawns on relics starting at level 47. If anyone knows of other levels that bonuses change at I would love to document it and put it somewhere on the wiki. I'd like to do the same for + All Skills and + All Combat Art's as well if anyone has info. This would make shopping a bit more convenient. For example if I was level 42 and I went shopping I would find Relics with +3 but if I got one more character level, 43, I could find Relics with +4. Relics (+ to General Skill) Amulets (+ to all Combat Art's) Rings & Amulets (+ Skills) [tr] Silver Difficulty +1 at Item Level 1 +2 at Item Level 10 +3 at Item Level 30 +4 at Item Level 46 +5 at Item Level 64 +6 at Item Level 82 Gold Difficulty +6 at Item Level 62 +7 at Item Level 77 +8 at Item Level 93 +9 at Item Level 108 Platinum Difficulty +2 at Item Level 2 +3 at Item Level +4 at Item Level +5 at Item Level 34 +6 at Item Level +7 at Item Level +8 at Item Level +9 at Item Level +10 at Item Level 100 +12 at Item Level +13 at Item Level 140 +14 at Item Level 154 Niobium Difficulty +3 at Item Level 2 + at Item Level +5 at Item Level +6 at Item Level 36 + at Item Level + at Item Level +9 at Item Level 73 + at Item Level +11 at Item Level 95 +15 at Item Level 142 Silver Difficulty +1 at Item Level +2 at Item Level +3 at Item Level 65 +4 at Item Level +5 at Item Level +6 at Item Level Gold Difficulty +2 at Item Level 25 +3 at Item Level +4 at Item Level 62 +5 at Item Level +6 at Item Level +7 at Item Level +8 at Item Level +9 at Item Level +10 at Item Level Platinum Difficulty +2 at Item Level +3 at Item Level +4 at Item Level +5 at Item Level +6 at Item Level +7 at Item Level +8 at Item Level +9 at Item Level +10 at Item Level +12 at Item Level +13 at Item Level +14 at Item Level Niobium Difficulty + at Item Level + at Item Level + at Item Level + at Item Level + at Item Level Silver Difficulty +1 at Item Level 15 +2 at Item Level 22 +3 at Item Level 47 +4 at Item Level Gold Difficulty +4 at Item Level 61 +5 at Item Level 73 +6 at Item Level 93 +7 at Item Level +8 at Item Level Platinum Difficulty +3 at Item Level 24 +4 at Item Level +5 at Item Level +6 at Item Level +7 at Item Level 92 +8 at Item Level +9 at Item Level +10 at Item Level 100 +12 at Item Level +13 at Item Level 140 +14 at Item Level 154 Niobium Difficulty +3 at Item Level 14 +4 at Item Level 30 +5 at Item Level 40 +6 at Item Level 55 +7 at Item Level 76 +8 at Item Level 95 +9 at Item Level 105 +10 at Item Level 120 +11 at Item Level 135 +12 at Item Level 150 +13 at Item Level 160 +14 at Item Level 180 +15 at Item Level 200 +16 at Item Level 210 [/tr] 1 Link to comment
Putrescine 11 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 139 plat relic gives me +12 140 plat relic gives me +13 141 plat relic gives me +13 142 plat relic gives me +13 152 plat relic gives me +13 153 plat relic gives me +13 154 plat relic gives me +14 ^^, Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 Awesome Putrescine. Thanx for your help on this one. Link to comment
Erling 3 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 hmm I get skill rings with both 2 and 3 +skills level 35-50 o.O but its kinda dependent on the other bonuses on the same ring so its kinda complicated.. o.O Link to comment
Dobri 55 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I got +5 all skills from about 65-70. At 69 or 70 I shopped my first + 6 all skills (on a magic amulet). On 71 I got several +6 all skills. So I guess level 70 is the borderline here. Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 hmm I get skill rings with both 2 and 3 +skills level 35-50 o.O but its kinda dependent on the other bonuses on the same ring so its kinda complicated.. o.O Ah that range is kinda tricky I think. +2 we already know can be found as early as item level 22 but +3 is a mystery still. My TG shopper is level 36 so I should be arriving at the point where +3 becomes available soon. I got +5 all skills from about 65-70. At 69 or 70 I shopped my first + 6 all skills (on a magic amulet). On 71 I got several +6 all skills. So I guess level 70 is the borderline here. Just to clarify Dobri do you mean +6 at item level 71 or at character level 71? Thanx for the info guys. It helps a lot. Link to comment
Dobri 55 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) Oh, that was char level 71. The item I think was 75-76. I'm positive it's one of those 2. I just don't want to get it out of the socket to check I lose the other 2 socketed there. Still I suppose the item level range is rather vague. I shopped a +4 all skills amulet (only 1 mod, +4 AS) with my dryad at level 25 and the item was level 24 (!) when I was getting +1 or +2 AS only (just checked). I assume it's possible for the game to put 2 modifiers of the same type on a jewelry, which means 2x the maximum possible AS value, in my case, 2x + 2 AS, so that 4. Here's a nice pic for you Edited March 17, 2009 by Dobri Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 Ah thanx Dobri. Those double skill amies are great. Got 3 +8 skill amies at level 62 and they make a HUGE difference. For the table I'll only keep track of the normal bonuses and when I add it to the wiki I'll put a special mention at the top that skills have a chance to be double. Thanx for the tip. For now I'll put your +6 at level 75 as you say. Link to comment
Dobri 55 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 You're doing a marvelous job there If we keep that combined effort up like this, I doubt there will be any other game that will have a wiki site so detailed as sacred 2 has Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted March 19, 2009 Author Share Posted March 19, 2009 Love those details yes indeedy Dobri. Speaking of which I've added a few more to the table above. The Silver section for Relics is complete! +2 and +3 are approximations based on what I had at the time though I'm betting they are maybe a level or 2 off. As soon as they are discovered at earlier levels I'll change the entries. P.s. I feel I should mention that the point of all this is to aid Bargainers. This table will tell Bargainers at what character levels are best to shop at for maximum results. Best offers. Link to comment
Erling 3 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I feel this is more dependant on barg level than toon level... soo I say 107 barg and +4 skills.. and with value find or deathblow on em aswell.. or additional +defensive/general/CA/offensive skills (toon level 60) Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted March 19, 2009 Author Share Posted March 19, 2009 That's an interesting theory Erling but I'm a bit doubtful. My level 60 HE has about 220 Bargaining and she gets the same thing as you say. +4 skills with additionals. However, a higher Bargaining will improve your chances to find +skills but I don't see it increasing the amount of +skills. As for the table I'm making though it isn't about Character level or Bargaining level. It's about Item level and what is the lowest/earliest we see rings/amies at varying +skill amounts. Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 Just bought a +3 Skills at Item Level 47. Lowest level I've seen so far so I've added it to the table. Link to comment
Arperum 3 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Any data about damage rings available? that seems usefull as well. I got a 9-9 damage ring at item level 53. Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 That would certainly be of value I think Arp. I don't think I have the strength to monitor more changes than the 3 I'm watching for. If you'd like though I could paste the formatting of the table I made into your post. You could then add info to it as you come across it. P.s. Added +7 at Item Level 77 for the Relics table. P.p.s Just found my first +5 all skills at level 73. Link to comment
Zandrama 0 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I have a level..62 toon...Single player...Local...and got a drop...Amulet level 66...+8 All Skills. My level 63 Toon...Closed Net..has 125 Enhanced Perception...and 121 Bargaining...and I got: At level 61...Bought level 61 Amulet...+ 6 to all skills...level 62 Talisman...+6 to all skills At level 60...got a drop from a critter...Talisman level 58 All skills +5 Luv the topic...because I wondered at which level most dropped or could be bought...cause am always looking...dammed habit now....lol Zandy Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 Wow, lucky finds Zand. I'm the same as you. I neeed to know when I can upgrade my skills suit. ^^ Those +skills that you bought/found are much higher than what I've found though. On those amulet and talismans is it only +skills on them? Or do they have +skills and another modifier? Oh and are those from Silver server or Gold. Screenshots would be great! Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Added a bit more info for Niob stuff. Link to comment
nilihanth 0 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 This is great stuff folks! Nice work, keep it up! Lets me know what I can look forward to once I get to higher levels. Link to comment
gogoblender 3,073 Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Does anyone know what they are, in drop order of levels ascending? I keep wanting to know this and try to remember but I keep forgetting. I'd like to add this to the wiki if anyone knows at what level a x +All Skills rings will fall at as high a level as possible. Thanks gogo Link to comment
soldats 0 Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 you'll need different tables because the values change with difficulty as well as character level Link to comment
Chrona 82 Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Hey I'll try to remember.... Values (all niob) level 1-12 Bargain+2 level 14-30 +3 all skills level ~40-50 +4/5 level ~55 +6 level ~80 +7 level ~95 +8 level ~105 +9 level ~130-150 +10/11/12 level ~160 +13 level ~180 +14 level 200 +15 level 210 +16 Link to comment
gogoblender 3,073 Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 oops lol, we have so much info flying around...didn't realize Brad had already started up a collection of the data. I've merged the two topics, if more peeps have more info so that he can add to the tables, sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Thanks for the Niob Contributions Chrona, much obliged gogo Link to comment
Schot 407 Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 Oh yum. More numbers. Thanx Chrona! Link to comment
Dobri 55 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Well, at level 75 with my new niob shopper I can get: Relics +9 (all types, every time) + All CA 5 or 6 + All Skills 6 or 7 I hope this info helps, part of it isn't in the table Link to comment
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